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2 hours ago, MantaRaymarc said:

Based on the list of quota places earned by the Germans, who among them should keep their berths, who will occupy the places to earn selection to the Olympic team, and who deserves to accept the spot traded by the Germans in one of the qualifying events?

 

I've already seen the qualifying criteria translated in German, and I'm getting puzzled on the qualifying process. How will the Germans choose the most deserving shooters for the Games?

There is a national qualification. The best shooters from this qualification will compete at the World Cups in Rio and Munich, where the best and depending on the numbe rof quotas second best will qualify for the Olympics.

If, for example, Engleder qualifies in both rifle events, it's possible that the additional quta place will go to Karsch.

13 hours ago, OlympicsFan said:

The best solution would be to give Kreutzers quota place to Engleder and Pfeilschifters quota place to Karsch, but that would be unfair. Engleder and Karsch have to be in Rio, everything else would be unacceptable.

There's no quota for Kreutzer. Engleder got the qualification as well. She fulfilled the standards just like all the others did. It's just that the others got the quota a bit earlier, which is why they were mentioned by name here. There's no problem in sending Engleder, who won some big competitions.

On the other hand, sending Karsch might be more problematic, since Karsch or everyone else in her discipline did not win a quota. But I think they should do so, as well.

9 minutes ago, OlympicsFan said:

I know that we only have one spot, but Karsch would have a medal chance in womens air pistol and womens 25 m pistol, in mens double trap we wont have a medal chance. I know that we wont do this, because it would be unfair for the athletes in mens double trap, but it would be the best thing to do if we wont to improve our medal chances. I think (but i am not sure) that there will be a competition for the quota places, the first (and second) athlete will qualify for Rio.

I think there's a big chance that she will get Pfeilschifter's place, who has retired. One of our women in the rifle events might simply participate in both disciplines.

5 hours ago, Benolympique said:

wow genial !!! in the section selected it means that he is qualified to officially rio?

It means that the National federation has nominated him.

1 minute ago, OlympicsFan said:

He didnt play against Germany or France (in the final), so this probably wont have any effect on the decision whether Russia will be disqualified or not.

Edit: I think he played in the 4th set against France, but he didnt have a big impact.

Once two team members are tested positive, the team has to be disqualified. That's the case now. The only question is, if he was tested positive during that tournament or later. If the positive test was later, there might still be a chance for Russia. 

A second Russian Volleyballer has been tested positive: http://www.sport1.de/volleyball/2016/03/volleyball-nach-dem-naechsten-dopingfall-eines-russischen-spielers-wird-der-deutsche-olympia-traum-konkreter

Obmochaev did play at the Qualification Tournament, though it isn't known so far if he was tested positive at this tournament or later.

Only if he didn't participate at the World Championships, I think.

Edit: Could you please delete my post above this one? Something went horribly wrong.

1 hour ago, OlympicsFan said:

Zonderland isnt qualified until now for Rio?

 

No, he isn't. But if Netherlands don't qualify as a team, they can decide which athlete to send to Rio: http://www.fig-gymnastics.com/publicdir/rules/files/olympic/GA_OG_Rio_2016_Qualification_System-e.pdf  

This would probably be Zonderland.

Fencing:

Britta Heidemann (Silver in London, Gold in Beijing) is in serious danger to miss Rio. Though she does still have a chance.

Athlets, Swimming, Table Tennis and Cycling (Track and Road).

I did not choose Football because it's not one of my favourites at the Olympics.  Otherwise it is.

Around 45.

For Germany, Marco Koch and Paul Biedermann are prequalified. They simply need to finish 1st or 2nd at the German NC to qualify. Everybody else needs the German standard time in addition.

Thanks. In this case it looks quite a bit better for our men than I thought.

I always thought the remaining Pentathletes (after the WC 2016) simply qualified by their place in the World Ranking. But now I found an Olympic Games Ranking on the official Website. What's the difference?

Thanks.

38 minutes ago, thiago_simoes said:

  And the Romanian team will perform on the very first subdivision, what usually equals to lower scores. 

Could you post a link to the start lists, please?

Just now, OlympicsFan said:

 

I think 4 german athletes will reach the standard in womens javelin, so Hussong cant qualify just now. From a german perspective this will probably the most intense fight for the 3 olympic spots.

I agree, she can't qualify now, but she can get the standards, of course. Women's Discus Throw and maybe the Long Jump could be similarly exciting.

The European Throwing Cup is the first chance for the German throwers to get the national Olympic Standards. Though from our best throwers only Betty Heidler and Christin Hussong will compete.

1 minute ago, hckosice said:

 

no way against a team with Fourcade in current shape.. and in last 4th leg

The problem in the French Relay are the other three legs. Or at least two of them.

This has to be a typo and they mean January. In December Meldonium was still legal, so he couldn't have failed a test.

If Russia gets DSQ (and I don't really think that they will) then there are two possibilities.

1.) France as the finalist gets the direct ticket for Rio and Germany gets the ticket for the Qualifier in Japan.

or 2.) They have to repeat the European Qualifier.

I can't believe that possibility number two will happen. France or Poland would be (understandably!) not happy about this at all. And they don't have much time anyway. the decision is at the end of April and the tournament at the end of May. They have to find a host, a date and the teams have to regroup. This seems impossible.

17 minutes ago, De_Gambassi said:

 

Do we know if he was caught after the semi or the final ? If the latter, FIVB could simply decide on Russia's forfet for the final only. Meaning that Russia would still have a great chance to qualifie for Rio and the FIVB could keep on pretending they care about anti-doping.

According to this article, the positive test was after the match against Germany in the semi final: http://www.sport1.de/volleyball/dvv-pokal/2016/03/dvv-herren-winkt-nachtraeglich-ein-ticket-fuer-olympische-spiele-in-rio

The women had a somewhat easier tournament. It was still difficult enough, but for the men it was really, really hard. I truly think that there wasn't as difficult a qualification in any other sport than this European tournament. Because of this I would always give the tickets for the men first. Anyway, the World Qualifier is at the end of May, so our team should better start preparing, just in case.

8 minutes ago, Agger said:

Same substance as Abeba Aregawi...

And as the Ukrainian Biathletes.

I don't know. This isn't mentioned in the document. There's a national pre-qualification and the three best athletes will go to the World Cup. And in Rio and Munich they can qualify for the Olympics. How excatly they can do it isn't said.