MHSN

ITTF awarded the East Asian quotas based on 21 May ranking. 

 Wong Chun Ting and  Pyon Song-Gyong

source

https://www.ittf.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/Paris_2024_WS21May24.pdf

https://www.ittf.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/Paris_2024_MS21May24-2.pdf

10 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

Excuse my lack of knowledge, but what was 2009 about in this regard? That's definitely before I started to have any kind of interest in international politics  

The Green movement, the first time the IR saw millions of people in the streets against itself, most importantly those protests were completely peaceful (unlike the recent protests) yet they didn't tolerate it. used brutal force to end things.

obviously the elections were never totally fair here. but it was OK within the regime. I mean they would disqualify whoever they didn't want before the race. but the race itself was usually OK. I believe 2009 was the first time they completely threw away the votes and published some fake numbers to keep that monkey (you know him as Ahmadinejad) in charge. The monkey is not part of the regime now but at the time he was supposed to be loyal. 

The guy who could win the election Mirhossein Mousavi is still under house arrest. 

4 hours ago, heywoodu said:

The videos appeared last night (it was dark in them) and did sort of seem like 'isolated' things (like some person shooting one or two things in the air), not mass events, so I guess it's what you said  

one person celebrating something in his private is always possible but I'm pretty sure it's not safe to go out celebrating this very loudly.

it's not humane to celebrate someone's death and I try hard not doing it myself. but since 2022 we passed a point of no return, for some people it happened in 2009 and for some others in 2019 but it feels like 2022 was really the end of that "let's hope things get better" era. 

I don't think like that myself, being radical is always a bad idea. but for lots of people, specially the younger generations, this is a war and they are the enemy. so they will indeed celebrate such a thing. even exaggerating to piss off the enemy

21 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

I wonder what the general reaction among Iranians is. The only thing I've seen on social media is people celebrating and fireworks and stuff (but that may of course also just be random old videos), but you know, hard to find everything when you don't speak a single word of the Iranian language  I assume @MHSN has a better view on that.

no fireworks certainly  those are old videos. it's early morning here. (could be some street celebrations if it was evening or night) but I think it's fair to say the majority of people are "happy" (or at very least not upset) to hear the news. of course the regime has its own shrinking group of supporters. they will try to control the narrative as usual.

since yesterday I saw/heard hundreds of jokes about him, lots of photoshopped pics of him with a bear  (there were supposed to be wild animals in that era "greeting" them) that pretty much shows the general reaction specially among the younger generations.

12 hours ago, LDOG said:

Does the ayatollah ever travel in helicopter?  crazy how those things have existed for decades and are still quite unsafe. I'd never get on one.

Calling that guy the ayatollah is a common mistake. that's a title you get when you finish some religious school (of whatever else they call it)

and no he never boards anything remotely unsafe  

Hend Zaza made history last time by going to the Olympics at the age of 11 (12 because of COVID)

pity she couldn't repeat the success  the Lebanese lady is 47 years old ! it was 47 vs 15 in the final

47 minutes ago, Roamingrover86 said:

Is it true he had a farsi nickname which translates to “ butcher of Iran” ? 
As he passed orders to execute numerous civilians. 

Yes and No

not exactly that term but I heard the word butcher about him before . but that was mostly before his presidency term. before that he was more an unknown person, with a dangerous background. but when he became "so called president" he was more like a stupid funny dumb guy people mock in a daily basis. I doubt anybody remember that nickname anymore

I have to give you guys a history lesson , I try to make it short 

back in 1980s there was a very extremist group, in English called MEK (the remaining of them are living in Albania now, somehow the Iranian version of ISIS) at some point they sided with Iraq's dictator Saddam during the Iran/Iraq war and directly attacked Iran with a large group of soldiers. they got trapped and killed in "Operation Mersad". 

but because of that Khomeini decided to "end" this group once for all. there were lots of MEK prisoners back in Iran ,most of them sanctioned with a short term, 2 or 3 years in jail. all of them had a re-trial. a very short one. 2 or 3 minutes with few questions and one wrong answer led you to receiving death penalty. (and they didn't know that, they thought it's just routine questioning) keep in mind they had nothing to do with the attack, they were in jail already. most of them were just supporting that group, not being part of their military actions. while being there, they also dealt with some other communist/leftist groups too with the same way.

those re-trials administered by a group of 4 judges (nowadays being called the "death committee") and Raeisi was one of them, he was young at the time and knowing his dumb personality, I don't think he had a big say in that group but still a part of it. so nobody is going to miss him (if he is really dead), except his stupid dumb mistakes.

6 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

Helicopter with Iran's president has gone missing. Talks about anything from a hard landing to a crash, 2 hours without any contact with Raisi or his team, and the dozens of search teams are hampered by awful weather.

Actually the weather itself is great in that part of the country. just too much fog. , that's in middle of a jungle though. hard to reach

nothing official yet but it's hard to believe they know nothing after 5 hours. the way they are handling the news it feels like we lost the dumbest politician ever. he was stupid funny sometimes and completely irrelevant 

17 hours ago, MHSN said:

Finals

 

Men:  Noshad Alamian vs  Nima Alamian

Women:  Shahsavari vs  Mirkadirova

 

I assume Noshad will let his younger brother take the quota. he is very safe in the ranking. 99% guaranteed the quota. Nima started the tournament with a 4-0 defeat but luckily survived the group stage and beat #1 seed Gerassimenko 

no surprise Nima won the match (not really a match, just some warming up) 4-1 to qualify

and  Neda Shahsavari won the women's quota beating Mirkadirova 4-3 in a very close match. she will be the first Iranian woman to participate in 3 Olympics ! 2012, 2016 and now 2024.

7 minutes ago, Adriano said:

"Fair play"  - funny.

 

you would do something different if you had to play your own brother for the quota you don't need ? 

and btw the match is scheduled for tomorrow, not done yet

Finals

Men:  Noshad Alamian vs  Nima Alamian

Women:  Shahsavari vs  Mirkadirova

I assume Noshad will let his younger brother take the quota. he is very safe in the ranking. 99% guaranteed the quota. Nima started the tournament with a 4-0 defeat but luckily survived the group stage and beat #1 seed Gerassimenko 

48 minutes ago, thepharoah said:

I heard that KSA won its 3rd gold medal , so I was just curious if it's true or not , cuz it's something very weird and surprising 

oh no that's not correct  they won nothing today

btw all results are available on Asian TKD federation website now

31 minutes ago, thepharoah said:

@MHSN do u have 2nd day results of Asian Championship ?

our federation (and media in general) only follow our own athletes.

I have results only in some weights, (where Iranians advanced to the final rounds) which weight you are interested to know ?

NZL declined Dela Pena's quota. that will return to the World Ranking

https://www.ittf.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/Paris_2024_MS15May24.pdf

OK, I understand they have a policy, but if they want to reject a quota why bother to participate in a "qualifier" !? that wasn't a continental championships, just the Olympic Qualifier. 

updated list on 15 May, only 3 athletes per gender are in the list for each NOC. the rest are removed

https://iwf.sport/wp-content/uploads/downloads/2024/05/P2O7G29.pdf

China's list is updated after removing those other weights. 

 Abdullo Azimov won the Asian Olympic quota

he finished 3rd behind Carlos Yulo and Milad Karimi (both had the quota already) in men's individual all-around 

new update from ICF

https://www.canoeicf.com/sites/default/files/paris_2024_csp_quota_allocation_as_of_16052024.pdf

some expected updates from other continents but looks like Australia rejected a quota in favor of Guam or something like that

details of men's freestyle quotas

there were 96+1 quotas, ( 96 + a refugee)

we have 39 NOCs (RUS and BLR separated) here

6 
5 

4 

3 

2 

1 

38 from Europe, 27 Asia, 19 Pan-Am, 9 Africa and 3 Oceania

by my count beside those 6 Russian wrestlers, 17 more Russians won quotas for other countries. (it doesn't mean the same number goes to Paris, NOCs can change their entries)

Quota matches

57:  vs 

65:  vs 

74:  vs 

86:  vs 

97:  vs 

125:  vs 

this guy Diaz is a giant killer  he beat Baran and now Sharipov !! I know Sharipov is in a terrible shape. but he was Russia #1 at some point ffs. RUS #1 losing to VEN feels like the end of the world 

7 minutes ago, sounak said:

In both yesterday's 65kg semifinals and today's 74kg bronze we lost because in both rounds passivity went against our wrestlers. 74kg bronze medal match was decided on passivity points 

I was OK with passivity calls but Demirtas deserved a "Caution and 1" for fleeing the hold (and running) in last 20-30 seconds. but obviously India wouldn't get a favorable call in Turkey against a Turkish wrestler. still surprised why the Indian coach didn't push that damn challenge button, he had nothing to lose.

what a bad mistake by Sujeet   he went for a cheap pushout and ended up giving up 2 pts. Retherford could never score on him even if he had 60 minutes instead of 6. 

USA is one win away from having a full team in Paris, the same as Russia and Azerbaijan

oh wow she pulled the hair again 

that should be the 3rd caution , will be a tough call for Mr Silvestri

The Italian coach only had to press that challenge button to win the quota 

that was really dumb, not to do it. 

(I mean not now, 30 seconds earlier)

1 minute ago, nitinsanker said:

Do you feel that sudeep Or jaideep have a chance in tomorrow events? 

Sujeet had his chances today, I mean for a moment I thought he threw the Mongolian and jumped from my chair  (unfortunately the Mongolian escaped it)

he has to win two matches tomorrow, the first one will be the hardest against Kudiev/Retherford , if he wins this, the next one will be 50/50 . Retherford will be the favorite IMO

as for Jaideep, he wins the 1st match, I think he has a chance against Demirtas. something like 40% and then if it's Valiev he can try to tire him down.

so in short I think they have a realastic chance but they are clearly not the favorite (or not even the 2nd favorite) to take it.

Poland deserved a bit of luck at the end, Baranowski won the quota exactly in the same way Baran lost it earlier today.

and China keeps losing quota matches in men's wrestling. but I'm pretty confident they will win the next one