[OFF TOPIC] Politics Thread

[rafalgorka 1,517]

So PLE country possible in future i guess

 

West Bank - Gaza land with No gap between them - it will never happen

Edited October 27, 2023 by rafalgorka

[Monzanator 4,498]

2 hours ago, rafalgorka said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news
 

US hits sites in Syria as Gaza aid 'barely trickles in

 

World War Three in the making or Just Another Day in the Middle East ??? 

 

More like Russia diverting attention away from Ukraine IF they supplied arms to Hamas before this attack.

[OlympicsFan 858]

4 hours ago, bestmen said:

but usa is against creating palestinian country , they are just good to kill 

Officially the US is for the two state solution.

https://www.npr.org/2023/10/27/1208694837/two-state-solution-israeli-palestinian-conflict

 

I think Hamas is/should be against it. Palestinians used to be in favor for it, but now they seem to lean against it. The younger the palestinians get, the more they are against it, which might indicate that Hamas indoctrinated them to be against it.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/512828/palestinians-lack-faith-biden-two-state-solution.aspx

 

With Israelis it is pretty much the same, they used to be in favor of it, but not so much anymore. Arab Israelis are more in favor of it than jewish israelis.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/lapid-says-majority-of-israelis-support-two-state-solution-but-poll-finds-otherwise/

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israeli-pm-lapid-backs-two-state-solution-with-palestinians-2022-09-22/

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/09/26/israelis-have-grown-more-skeptical-of-a-two-state-solution/

 

Iran doesn't want a two state solution, but apparently they used to not be against it.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2011/10/2/iran-rejects-two-state-solution-for-palestine

https://www.ft.com/content/3042d2cc-3c3e-11db-9c97-0000779e2340

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran–Palestine_relations

 

Qatar on the other hand seems to be in favor of it.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/9/2/two-state-solution-needed-for-palestine-qatar-emir-tells-kushner

 

Other arab countries also seem to be in favor of it.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/11/arab-ministers-urge-israel-to-resume-talks-on-two-state-solution

 

China and Russia also seem to be in favor of a two-state solution.

https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/china-sends-envoy-middle-east-sign-ambition-play-104168797

 

Turkey also seems to be in favor of a two state solution. Turkey is in a very interesting situation, considering that they support a two-state solution for Cyprus but don't want the Kurds to have their own state.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/turkey-talks-with-hamas-hostages-nothing-concrete-now-state-media-2023-10-18/

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-turkey-kurds-idUSKBN0P70QB20150627

 

So (at least) officially Iran (and therefore Hamas as well) seems to be the only player that is strongly against a two-state solution.

 

Here is how people in Europe and the US think about the current conflict:

https://yougov.co.uk/international/articles/45869-attitudes-israel-palestine-conflict-western-europe

Edited October 27, 2023 by OlympicsFan

[OlympicsFan 858]

4 hours ago, Monzanator said:

 

More like Russia diverting attention away from Ukraine IF they supplied arms to Hamas before this attack.

I think one reason why Israel didn't (strongly) support Ukraine was that they needed russian "permission" to bomb targets in Syria. Will be interesting to see how the Israel-Russia relationship develops after Russia sided with Hamas.

[bestmen 2,817]

9 hours ago, OlympicsFan said:

 

 

only lies and manipulations customized by medias  , the day when you understand what politicians plan for decades you will hang yourself

[bestmen 2,817]

another missile hited Egypt 

This is too much ,Egypt should enter the war with their entire power whatever the consequences are 

 

[bestmen 2,817]

Gaza without weapons ,no food no electricity ...nothing they resisted to 3 attempts of the enemies  invasion 

 

Shame to you Egypt Jordan Lebanon, KSA  ... enter the war ya bunch of cow.ards 

[bestmen 2,817]

They think when Palestine gets the independance that will be the end of the world 

So what ! You gonna die anyway late or early 

[bestmen 2,817]

Drones attacked a US military base in Syria.... it comes from Iran they said 

[Vic Liu 1,682]