[OFF TOPIC] Politics Thread

[Olympian1010 7,971]

Israel will vote to annex 30% of the West Bank on Sunday. 
 

This comes after the announcement of Trump’s peace plan. His plan would see Israel get all of Jerusalem (so it’s already going to have issues right there), and that part of the West Bank that they’ll vote to annex. Palestine would get the rest of the West Bank, Gaza Strip, and then some parts of Israel to connect the two (which will also never happen).

 

Of course this also comes after three consecutive Israeli elections (and before a scheduled fourth). The left may be strong enough to prevent this, but I doubt it.

 

Netanyahu is has also been officially charged with bribery, money laundering, etc.

 

“Exciting” times in Israeli politics.

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Il y a 2 heures, Olympian1010 a dit :

Israel will vote to annex 30% of the West Bank on Sunday. 
 

 

And then western world  will blame any Palestinian Resistance movement 

 

 

[AmericanHero40 213]

4 hours ago, Olympian1010 said:

Israel will vote to annex 30% of the West Bank on Sunday. 
 

This comes after the announcement of Trump’s peace plan. His plan would see Israel get all of Jerusalem (so it’s already going to have issues right there), and that part of the West Bank that they’ll vote to annex. Palestine would get the rest of the West Bank, Gaza Strip, and then some parts of Israel to connect the two (which will also never happen).

 

Of course this also comes after three consecutive Israeli elections (and before a scheduled fourth). The left may be strong enough to prevent this, but I doubt it.

 

Netanyahu is has also been officially charged with bribery, money laundering, etc.

 

“Exciting” times in Israeli politics.

 

There were only 2 elections, the 3rd one is in march. Also it seems like a plan that actually the israeli left will agree to and not the right.

[Olympian1010 7,971]

1 hour ago, Maxim Fastovsky said:

 

There were only 2 elections, the 3rd one is in march. Also it seems like a plan that actually the israeli left will agree to and not the right.

I thought there was already 3, but Israeli politics have been a bit all over the place lately.

 

Why do you think the right will vote against. I thought Netanyahu would be for this.

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24 minutes ago, Olympian1010 said:

I thought there was already 3, but Israeli politics have been a bit all over the place lately.

 

Why do you think the right will vote against. I thought Netanyahu would be for this.

Netanyahu is. but the right is more radical then him.   They dont want a Palestinian country (though Palestinians already rejected this proposal) 

[Olympian1010 7,971]

Also, major drama in the US Senate trial. It looks like the GOP is facing a major upset, as the trial may have to feature witnesses. The vote on wether or not to have witnesses in the trial could end up 50-50, with the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court deciding the vote.

 

This could be a somewhat major sign of trouble for Trump. However, no one seems to be sure what will happen in that vote.

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50 minutes ago, Olympian1010 said:

Also, major drama in the US Senate trial. It looks like the GOP is facing a major upset, as the trial may have to feature witnesses. The vote on wether or not to have witnesses in the trial could end up 50-50, with the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court deciding the vote.

 

This could be a somewhat major sign of trouble for Trump. However, no one seems to be sure what will happen in that vote.

 

Well McConell indicated that for now there are more then 4 that are going for witnesses. It's really not going to change the outcome there will never be 67. The one thing that it will change is that it will prolong the circus for much longer, and at the same time the 4 presidential candidates will just sit in the senate and won't be able to be in the big states especially super Tuesday coming in a month. And i don't even want to speak about yesterday's Alan Dershowitz testimony 

[Monzanator 4,499]

Cambridge published some data showing how democracy is losing fans all over the world.

 

Unsurprisingly democracy is most popular in the wealthiest countries in the world like Norway, Switzerland, Denmark & Netherlands (all in Top 11 of GDP per capita).

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/education-51281722

[Olympian1010 7,971]

13 minutes ago, Monzanator said:

Cambridge published some data showing how democracy is losing fans all over the world.

 

Unsurprisingly democracy is most popular in the wealthiest countries in the world like Norway, Switzerland, Denmark & Netherlands (all in Top 11 of GDP per capita).

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/education-51281722

It has to do with how Constitutions are written. If people don’t believe their votes count, they why should they choose democracy. Democracy also fails the minority a lot of the time, which makes it easier to overturn. It also takes educated votes to keep democracy alive. We have to make sure we don’t elect people like Trump and Bolsonaro, who don’t respect democracy. The rise of populism is taking its toll to as well. 

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8 minutes ago, Olympian1010 said:

It has to do with how Constitutions are written. If people don’t believe their votes count, they why should they choose democracy. Democracy also fails the minority a lot of the time, which makes it easier to overturn. It also takes educated votes to keep democracy alive. We have to make sure we don’t elect people like Trump and Bolsonaro, who don’t respect democracy. The rise of populism is taking its toll to as well. 

 

To win any election you need money though. Most of the monarchies in the world have been either overthrown or serve as ceremonial puppets anyway. Most political parties have learned how to dominate the system, USA has seen zero options beyond Dems and GOP for what, 160 years? Senate and Congress don't have even ONE member from outside of these two parties since how long? Politicians have truly learned how to use democracy into their own favor hence we have all these political families and all that nonsense. There is no real choice in most democracies anyway. You vote for the same two parties over and over again. The communists regimes have had one ruling party, the oh-so ideal democracy has two in most cases. That is some upgrade indeed Call me again if Libertarian Party votes just one member of the Congress! I suspect that won't happen in the next 50 years and beyond