[OFF TOPIC] Politics Thread

[Monzanator 4,769]

1 minute ago, Olympian1010 said:

It is really strange. Conservatives has always voted to protect democracy, but now they keep electing these far-right authoritarian leaders. Socialists (who have always favored strong leadership, nationalism, and strong central government) support leaders who want to strengthen democracy. In the last decade we’ve seen a complete flip of ideology.

 

 

Here's the thing, political battles are no longer won by ideology. That's so 19th century of the pre-internet world. Right now everyone has easy access to news and can see these political schmucks out on daily basis. Nobody truly pays attention to what these people have to say. Attention span is limited. And surprise, surprise, people vote for the strongest personality most of the time. Boris Johnson might be a clown but he wins the personality contest over wooden sticks like May or Corbyn hand over first, period. Likewise Trump, he's a narcisstic clown but he smokes Sanders and Biden out of the water. I told ya, Dems need a second coming of JFK, Clinton or Obama to beat this guy. Biden and Sanders are dead ducks in the race IMO.

[Monzanator 4,769]

12 minutes ago, Olympian1010 said:

Yes personality/image seems to be the biggest deal breaker in the age of connection. Lying (while saying that you’re not) also seems to be a big factor in winning. Same trend in  elections. Worth noting that the world is more polarized then ever. Left countries swinging further, and right countries going further right. Internationally my generation seems ultra liberal. It’s going to be an awesome decade of international politics. Buckle up everyone. Let’s hope  and  came create some real change in the cycle.

 

I'm a cynical realist. Politicians always say what people want to hear aka they always lie one way or another, period. I'm not gonna pretend I buy their crap. You say Trump and Johnson are liars, fine, but Crooked Hilary and Corbyn are equal liars too. Politics is always about half-truths and imperfect lies. Idealism is dead and buried.

 

Israel is more hung than UK. I guess they're up for a third general election within the last 12 months soon and Netanyahu has rallied the radical troops after his "West Bank will be partially annexed" comments. The guy is pretty desperate and it offers zero chance of a stable political situation

 

As for "your" generation going ultra liberal, well, just because you win the social media battle, it doesn't mean you win the war. And the younger generations have always struggled to put up numbers when it comes to actual votes. It's the old people and blue collar workers that are still majority of any society in the world.

[Olympian1010 8,230]

That’s where my political hopes get dashed. I’m not hip, and I have an difficult personality. However, I have a lot of great ideas that I truly think could help the country, and often get bipartisan support when polled. I’d never win a race though because I live by the classical model of politics. I do plan to run for political office in the future, but I wouldn’t say my prospects are great.

[Olympian1010 8,230]

I wonder what effect this election will have on the NHS?

[Monzanator 4,769]

The icing on the cake - Bishop Auckland in County Durham which has never had a Tory MP in 134 years just voted one by 8,000 majority! Margaret Thatcher is rolling in her grave

[Agger 1,700]

3 hours ago, Monzanator said:

 

Hey, it's your liberal democracy you all hail as the best system in the world  The democracy has supported the biggest clown tandem in the world which probably means more useless analysis will come out of this while the sociallists and liberals of this world will be wondering how on Earth people voted for Trump & Johnson in such convincing fashion

 

USA and UK are not part of the best system due to their love of First Past the Post

[OlympicIRL 5,661]

13 hours ago, Olympian1010 said:

Yeah the Irish national party has already flipped 2 DUP seats and could get more. It migh very well be the first time we see more nationalists the unionists. Hell, even parts of Belfast are voting for the nationalists in huge numbers. United Kingdom of England and Wales here we come. Even after saying that, Wales are voted more for nationalists and Labour than Tory. This may very well be the end of the line for the United Kingdom. 
 

Does anyone know wether or not LIB/DEM will support Scottish independence? There really the only party left with any power besides the SNP in Scotland.

 

Yes it's the first time that Northern Ireland has elected more nationalists than unionists.

[bestmen 2,904]

This is really friday 13 for us , this baron of corruption & robbery won the election by forgery and dirty money 

 

[bestmen 2,904]

Imagine your president has a son in jail for being member of mafia of the cocaine trade 

 

while he was kicked last year when he was  prime minister for corruption and treason 

[Monzanator 4,769]

12 hours ago, Agger said:

 

USA and UK are not part of the best system due to their love of First Past the Post

 

Obviously First Past the Post system favors a two party system in first place yet I've been critical enough of liberal democracy that some people won't trust my word