La Vuelta Ciclista a España 2025

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1 minute ago, heywoodu said:

Nope, there would absolutely have been a lot fewer protests without "Israel" in the name (from the start) and genocidal nut Adams leading the team.

 

The problem will solve itself though, hardly any self-respecting rider is going to sign for them anymore.

Maybe but Spain seems so anti Semitic now a days, 

[Dnl 718]

3 hours ago, heywoodu said:

UCI mostly. At least not allowing Israel in the name (and not allowing the truly horrible owner/boss of the team in the race) would have avoided most if not all of this.

 

The organizers are certainly to blame as well for not changing routes where protests were clearly going to happen. You can't always stop that, unless you have a North Korean police force.

So UAE Bahrain Astana(capital of Kazakhstan) is fine but when it’s Israel then the double standards begin…

You can keep cover behind the “evil Israel nonsense “ but still most of the riders that was harmed during the tour was outside of IPT, and also now it’s Israel but maybe next time they’ll have a problem with Lidl and then what? Spain became super hostile for Israelis and Jews in general, even a Druze Israeli friend of mine got spat on by some crazy fucks in Barcelona 

[Dnl 718]

5 hours ago, Gianlu33 said:

Or perhaps we should avoid allowing state teams sponsored by those who commit genocide to participate. Israel must be treated like Russia.

A the team is not sponsored by the country 

 

B show me the proof of the “genocide” you are talking about, is it with us in the room?

 

because even according to the numbers provided by HAMAS there is no case for it to be called Genocide, I would be very careful writing things without any base,

[Gianlu33 5,276]

Just now, Dnl said:

A the team is not sponsored by the country 

 

B show me the proof of the “genocide” you are talking about, is it with us in the room?

 

because even according to the numbers provided by HAMAS there is no case for it to be called Genocide, I would be very careful writing things without any base,

It’a cleary written in a lot of UN reports

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1 minute ago, Gianlu33 said:

It’a cleary written in a lot of UN reports

Ah yes, the Dictators' Trade Union. 

[Dnl 718]

1 minute ago, Gianlu33 said:

It’a cleary written in a lot of UN reports

Well it’s still the same organisation that has francesca albanese in charge of the outputs to the UN from this area , the same person that said in 2022 that Palestinian must resist violently, and compared 1948 to the holocaust and declared in a UN report that israel used unconventional weapons and when asked about proof she never provided, also her husband’s tweets…

also Iran is in the UN human rights council while not being known for Their Human Rights Record https://freedomhouse.org/country/iran

[ChandlerMne 1,202]

World is going nowhere, for sure.

Times when terrorism became normal, no matter which side, are here, we are living them. 

[heywoodu 15,997]

41 minutes ago, Dnl said:

A the team is not sponsored by the country 

 

Not literally sponsored, but it does exist for the sole purpose of 'making Israel look better' (as per the highly controversial owner/boss, those are his words, "every time our team does well, commentators mention Israel in a positive light and that is what this is all about").

 

For what it's worth, I'm also not a fan of the sheikh teams that exist for the same reasons (to sportswash certain countries), btw.

 

And also, this seems unnecessary to add but nowadays it's always better to explicitly state it: obviously the whole violent part of the protests is very much wrong, not to even mention the idiots pulling riders off of their bikes or running into the peloton. Many, many people were standing along the roads and climbs holding a Palestinian flag (but meanwhile just clapping for riders, standing there, and most certainly not doing anything dangerous), that is totally fine, but attacking anyone...nope, they should have had some rough encounters with the Guardia Civil.

Edited September 16 by heywoodu

[bestmen 2,898]

Well done spain