Biathlon IBU World Cup 2024 - 2025

SalamAkhi · Monday at 08:33 PM

On 12/8/2024 at 3:45 PM, copravolley said:

Perrot was still a bit worse than Giacomel last year and where is he now? It's a waste of time. And we are so far behind in almost every winter sport that France is outclassing us: all the disciplines of classic skiing, biathlon, men's alpine skiing, etc. And even where we're better, we don't have any chance against other powerhouses, like luge, short-track, speed skating. We can only count on individuals: Ghiotto, Sighel, Goggia, Brignone or Vittozzi, some of whom are over 30. In France there's an effective system and here we're counting on a star like Tomba or Sinner appearing in every sport. Otherwise we can't be competitive anywhere, no matter if it's summer or winter sports. And the winter sports hurt even more because we have the Olympics in Cortina in 1 year

Thought we were the best at complaining and seeing the worst outcome but you seem to beat us fair and square here.

I don't actually see any real difference between Italy and France. We're not less relying on individual as you are, except maybe in biathlon and some niche like ski/snowboardcross.

Even in biathlon the pipeline is rather dry on the men's side. You comparison between Giacomel and Perrot remains an individual paralleling, other factors can explain the discrepancy.

You're clearly overestimating us and our big scheme :lol: Women's alpine has been non-existent for years except for one or two Worleys, barring Pagnier the biggest hope we get in ski jumping is having someone reaching the second round, nordic combined is nowhere near where it was a decade back.

And I'm not mentionning ice sports ... short-track training in Bormio with Italy with no positive outcome i.e almost no one getting to the finals, speed skating only just starting to actually exist as a real discipline and not as a lone exiled guy oddity, sliding sports in limbo ...

copravolley · Monday at 08:47 PM

7 minutes ago, SalamAkhi said:

Thought we were the best at complaining and seeing the worst outcome but you seem to beat us fair and square here.

I don't actually see any real difference between Italy and France. We're not less relying on individual as you are, except maybe in biathlon and some niche like ski/snowboardcross.

Even in biathlon the pipeline is rather dry on the men's side. You comparison between Giacomel and Perrot remains an individual paralleling, other factors can explain the discrepancy.

You're clearly overestimating us and our big scheme Women's alpine has been non-existent for years except for one or two Worleys, barring Pagnier the biggest hope we get in ski jumping is having someone reaching the second round, nordic combined is nowhere near where it was a decade back.

And I'm not mentionning ice sports ... short-track training in Bormio with Italy with no positive outcome i.e almost no one getting to the finals, speed skating only just starting to actually exist as a real discipline and not as a lone exiled guy oddity, sliding sports in limbo ...

Objectively assessing Paris 2024 was a great success for France in terms of sports - great progress in terms of medals, including gold, compared to previous editions in the 21st century. Now you will have the Winter Games in 2030 and I`m sure you will be ready. You still have a lot of time. You will certainly not be in such a terrible situation as we are 1 year before our Games in 2026 (I have the right to expect the worst after what I saw in 2006). I don`t want to get into politics but I think that someone like Macron is a great president in terms of the development of sports - you can see that he loves sports and is very interested in them (it is thanks to him that France got the Winter Games in 2030).

Bailer · Monday at 08:48 PM

4 hours ago, copravolley said:

Vittozzi or Tandrevold?

Tandrevold. After all, this isn't the first time we're seeing this.

copravolley · Monday at 08:54 PM

4 minutes ago, Bailer said:

Tandrevold. After all, this isn't the first time we're seeing this.

I think that nowadays people can play sports, e.g. with defibrillators, so it's not a big problem and in her case the disease is probably not that serious. For her, it may even be better that it happened now rather than during the Olympic season, even if she had to miss a large part of the season.

Fly_like_a_don · Wednesday at 07:37 PM

Just saw the men's results and Wright :USA finished 4th in Sprint, 4s behind bronze. I don't know if it's just me or not many really watch men's cross country and biathlon because of the long Norwegian domination in XC And men's biathlon being largely on predictable lines between few athletes( though still better than men's XC)