Commonwealth Games 2022

[intoronto 6,406]

More sports are to be added later.

 

I wonder if India will throw a temper tantrum. 2030 won't include shooting either 

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On 4/12/2022 at 9:37 PM, intoronto said:

More sports are to be added later.

 

I wonder if India will throw a temper tantrum. 2030 won't include shooting either 

Looks like they’ve started.

 

https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1122278/ioa-archery-shooting-wrestling-victoria

[JoshMartini007 2,765]

I've always found it weird that India pushed archery so hard (besides the obvious, they are good at it and want more medals).

 

Honestly, shooting deserves to be included, more so than a bunch of other sports and wrestling, while not as well developed across the Commonwealth, you can at least say it's a mainstay. Archery on the other hand has only been held at two games and it isn't any more relevant to other Commonwealth nations than any other Olympic sport. I'd sooner argue for rowing or sailing to be included. They at least have a strong presence.

[intoronto 6,406]

Beach volleyball teams confirmed: https://www.fivb.com/en/media/news_pressrelease/beach-volleyball-line-up-confirmed-for-birmingham-2022?id=96898

 

Nice too see Tuvalu!

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23 minutes ago, intoronto said:

Beach volleyball teams confirmed: https://www.fivb.com/en/media/news_pressrelease/beach-volleyball-line-up-confirmed-for-birmingham-2022?id=96898

 

Nice too see Tuvalu!

 also qualify from the Arctic Division.

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Regarding the second tranche of sports at Victoria 2026, the Sydney Morning Herald offers some insight into which sports may or may not make the cut.

 

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/wrestling-or-men-s-cricket-stalemate-on-new-sports-for-2026-commonwealth-games-20220428-p5agu1.html

[JoshMartini007 2,765]

I disagree that the Commonwealth and Olympic sports program should be aligned. There are Olympic sports that just aren't well played in the Commonwealth. In a time where they are trying to cut costs, do you really think hosting fencing or handball events is a good idea.

 

On the flip side, while netball has no business at the Olympics, it is almost exclusively played by Commonwealth nations.

[intoronto 6,406]

Wheelchair Basketball Draws:

 

 

[nitinsanker 206]

commonwealth Games is becoming such a farce 

 

what is the purpose of any multigame event ......  I believe it is to foster sports , participation and interest in all the countries which form the nations which are part of the nations involved .... There are 70 odd participants to the games ( but look closely and you will find there are only53 countries in the commonwealth so all the rest are overseas territories  or Ok adding isle of man and jersey as seperate team )

 

so  lets look at the 53 countries 

 

an africa group which includes kenya , uganda , whose primary interest would be athletics 

a carribean group like jamaica, bahamas etc whose primary interest would be athletics 

 

 

 

so possibly 15 -20 odd countries who would have a wider interest in a multigames program which would be divided into 

 

the core dominion countries - UK , Australia , canada and NZ 

Large african countries - Nigeria , SA 

South asian cluster  - India, Pakistan , bangladesh srilanka 

SEA cluster  - singapore , malaysia 

 

 

now let us look at the sports they have increased medals in or cut in the last 20  years  ( last 5 games ) 

 

They  have cut shooting 40 to 0 where india dominated , but also the sole medal winner for bangladesh 

 

They have cut wrestling from 14 to 0  where it was a sport where india dominated and nigeria did well and so did pakistan ( this took a lot of effort as they had to change the whole framework as 

 

they have reduced the weightlifting medals from 45 to 15  a sport where india dominates but the smaller oceanic countries like soma, fiji , etc did well in, also pakistan and srilanka get a majority of their medals . I am seeing this as the next target as this is a sport the dominion do badly at and other countries somoa , india and nigeria do well at  

 

so cut  a 100 medals here 

 

what sports have they increased or added 

 

aquatics gone up from 48 to an incredible 66 ...... this event is almost wholly dominated by the dominion 4 and SA 

 

cycling gone up from 15 to 26 ...... the event is almost wholely dominated by the dominion 4 

 

lawn bowls gone up from 6 to 11 again a sport dominated by the dominion 4 

 

gymnastics gone up from 15 to 20 odd adding rhythmic gymnastics again a sport dominated by the dominion 4 + cyprus 

 

judo has been added by UK and dropped by Aus every time a desperate ping pong in sport of 14 medals again dominated by UK \

 

Para atheletics around 10-12 events carefully selected to reflect the dominion 4 only 11 /12 medals only by them 

 

triatholon and squash with 10 or so medals have been added which are events where all the gold medals are won by the dominion 4 

 

so added a 80 odd  medals here 

 

so if you add the athletics program of 60 or so , , almost 200 medals out of 270 or so ( 75% comes in just 6 sports .with the new changes l ) ...... 5 out of these 6 sports almost exclusively the dominion of the 5 dominion countries .........and you cut a 100 medals in sports like weightlifting , wrestling and shooting where  non dominion countries did well in and completely dropped shooting and wrestling pretty much mainstay programs 

 

if india protests it is a fair protest  ....... this is turning into a dominion games.... of interest of only the 4 dominion countries and possibly SA ........ so go ahead you are killing interest in the CWG  in all countries except the 4 dominion countries and SA ............ anyway  commonwealth para games , commonwealth youth games , cCWG winter games are already killed  .......very soon the main CWG will die or you convert them  into a quadrilateral games and drop the multigames tag 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[intoronto 6,406]

43 minutes ago, nitinsanker said:

commonwealth Games is becoming such a farce 

 

what is the purpose of any multigame event ......  I believe it is to foster sports , participation and interest in all the countries which form the nations which are part of the nations involved .... There are 70 odd participants to the games ( but look closely and you will find there are only53 countries in the commonwealth so all the rest are overseas territories  or Ok adding isle of man and jersey as seperate team )

 

so  lets look at the 53 countries 

 

an africa group which includes kenya , uganda , whose primary interest would be athletics 

a carribean group like jamaica, bahamas etc whose primary interest would be athletics 

 

 

 

so possibly 15 -20 odd countries who would have a wider interest in a multigames program which would be divided into 

 

the core dominion countries - UK , Australia , canada and NZ 

Large african countries - Nigeria , SA 

South asian cluster  - India, Pakistan , bangladesh srilanka 

SEA cluster  - singapore , malaysia 

 

 

now let us look at the sports they have increased medals in or cut in the last 20  years  ( last 5 games ) 

 

They  have cut shooting 40 to 0 where india dominated , but also the sole medal winner for bangladesh 

 

They have cut wrestling from 14 to 0  where it was a sport where india dominated and nigeria did well and so did pakistan ( this took a lot of effort as they had to change the whole framework as 

 

they have reduced the weightlifting medals from 45 to 15  a sport where india dominates but the smaller oceanic countries like soma, fiji , etc did well in, also pakistan and srilanka get a majority of their medals . I am seeing this as the next target as this is a sport the dominion do badly at and other countries somoa , india and nigeria do well at  

 

so cut  a 100 medals here 

 

what sports have they increased or added 

 

aquatics gone up from 48 to an incredible 66 ...... this event is almost wholly dominated by the dominion 4 and SA 

 

cycling gone up from 15 to 26 ...... the event is almost wholely dominated by the dominion 4 

 

lawn bowls gone up from 6 to 11 again a sport dominated by the dominion 4 

 

gymnastics gone up from 15 to 20 odd adding rhythmic gymnastics again a sport dominated by the dominion 4 + cyprus 

 

judo has been added by UK and dropped by Aus every time a desperate ping pong in sport of 14 medals again dominated by UK \

 

Para atheletics around 10-12 events carefully selected to reflect the dominion 4 only 11 /12 medals only by them 

 

triatholon and squash with 10 or so medals have been added which are events where all the gold medals are won by the dominion 4 

 

so added a 80 odd  medals here 

 

so if you add the athletics program of 60 or so , , almost 200 medals out of 270 or so ( 75% comes in just 6 sports .with the new changes l ) ...... 5 out of these 6 sports almost exclusively the dominion of the 5 dominion countries .........and you cut a 100 medals in sports like weightlifting , wrestling and shooting where  non dominion countries did well in and completely dropped shooting and wrestling pretty much mainstay programs 

 

if india protests it is a fair protest  ....... this is turning into a dominion games.... of interest of only the 4 dominion countries and possibly SA ........ so go ahead you are killing interest in the CWG  in all countries except the 4 dominion countries and SA ............ anyway  commonwealth para games , commonwealth youth games , cCWG winter games are already killed  .......very soon the main CWG will die or you convert them  into a quadrilateral games and drop the multigames tag 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think some of your facts are wrong. Yea don't agree with shooting being dropped.. but 40 events (some which were doubled up) is a joke.

 

To say dropping weightlifting from 45 to 15 is a farce is laughable. Every MSE awards medals for the total lift only...so are those events a joke ?

 

Wrestling is on the Birmingham program and has many (womens) events under subscribed atm (ie not enough entries). Australia has no tradition in this sport and its no surprise they have not included it in their home games. However, there will be more sports added and wrestling is still a possibility.