Track Cycling at the Cycling UCI World Championships 2023 Road to Paris 2024

[heywoodu 13,819]

Just now, Jinzha said:

Not a great keirin by Lavreysen. It's like he reacted to Richardson and Carlin and suddenly found himself in front and decided to keep going. 3 laps in front is just too much even for him.

Plus especially Carlin simply jumped the start, that race should have been stopped. I'm glad Quintero won, that's awesome and I hope they won't rerun it, but this was yet another fail by the seemingly somewhat incompetent jury in Glasgow

[Agger 1,611]

Thank you Poland for securing the Danish silver! 

[Adriano 517]

9 minutes ago, Agger said:

Thank you Poland for securing the Danish silver! 

No problem:)

[Grassmarket 2,983]

4 hours ago, Rafa Maciel said:

It seems a bit weird that they have scheduled all 4 of the women's omnium in the same evening session whereas the men's event had the scratch race in the afternoon session 

That’s the normal scheduling on the circuit though - it was only because of all the para races they had to change the men’s

[Grassmarket 2,983]

1 hour ago, heywoodu said:

Plus especially Carlin simply jumped the start, that race should have been stopped. I'm glad Quintero won, that's awesome and I hope they won't rerun it, but this was yet another fail by the seemingly somewhat incompetent jury in Glasgow

Ie the same jury who do everything, not specifically Scottish. But I agree they have been slack, compared to the London 2012 especially.  

[Rafa Maciel 1,512]

52 minutes ago, Grassmarket said:

That’s the normal scheduling on the circuit though - it was only because of all the para races they had to change the men’s

Not sure about that - may be the case in the Nation's Cup but looking back over the schedules for Euros and Worlds, definitely looks like previous they had the scratch and tempo race in afternoon session and then elimination and points in the evening.

[Olympian1010 7,659]

Watching the keirin final, I was wondering…

 

Is there any consensus as to whether track sprinters are better in a straight sprint than road sprinters (or they are better/equal)?

[heywoodu 13,819]

8 hours ago, Grassmarket said:

Ie the same jury who do everything, not specifically Scottish. But I agree they have been slack, compared to the London 2012 especially.  

Oh let's not bring London 2012 back in the game, with the absolutely shameful showing of the British team sprint men  

[heywoodu 13,819]

6 hours ago, Olympian1010 said:

Watching the keirin final, I was wondering…

 

Is there any consensus as to whether track sprinters are better in a straight sprint than road sprinters (or they are better/equal)?

Generally road sprinters are significantly better at straight sprints (assuming you mean on the road), but that might also be because road racing is a way, way, way bigger sport and so the field is a lot more competitive in general. Other than that, it's just entirely different: a massive explosion of 10-20 seconds like in the individual sprint or keirin vs a bunch sprint on the road after several hours of riding. Road sprinters are still endurance athletes really.

 

That being said, quite a lot of the road riders who have success on the track are sprinters. The likes of Mark Cavendish or Elia Viviani have been good on the track, but definitely not in sprint events (think points race, scratch, those kind of things), presumably because of the aforementioned thing of road sprinters still being endurance athletes more than raw sprinters. Either that or time trial specialists (the likes of Filippo Ganna).

 

The only real top track sprinter who was a somewhat decent road sprinter I can think of is Theo Bos, but he definitely didn't become much more than a B-tier road sprinter.

[heywoodu 13,819]

7 hours ago, Rafa Maciel said:

Not sure about that - may be the case in the Nation's Cup but looking back over the schedules for Euros and Worlds, definitely looks like previous they had the scratch and tempo race in afternoon session and then elimination and points in the evening.

They have that in the Nation's Cup as well: first two events in the first session of the day, the other two events in the later session of the day.