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Fencing FIE World Championships 2023


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men's Team Foil

 

Gold: :JPN Japan

Silver: :CHN China

Bronze: :HKG Hong Kong

 

Semifinals

 

Japan b. Hong Kong  45-35

China b. USA  45-35

 

Bronze Medal Match

 

Hong Kong b. USA  45-31

 

Gold Medal Match

 

Japan b. China  45-35

 

Full Ranking & Results

https://www.fencingworldwide.com/en/2984-2022/results/

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1 hour ago, Vektor said:

Men's foil Olympic ranking before the final 4 World Cup events

 

1. :JPN  228 pts - World 1

2. :USA  200 pts - World 2

3. :ITA  180 pts - World 3

4. :CHN  168 pts - World 4

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5. :FRA  152 pts - Europe

6. :HKG  146 pts - Asia

7. :EGY  140 pts - Africa

8. :KOR  140 pts

9. :POL  112 pts

10. :GER  109 pts

11. :GBR  97 pts

12. :BEL  94 pts

13. :HUN  91 pts

14. :CAN  90 pts - America

15. :CHI  84 pts

16. :BRA  84 pts

17. :UKR  84 pts

 

 

Women's sabre Olympic ranking before the final 4 World Cup events

 

1. :HUN  196 pts - World 1

2. :FRA  193 pts - World 2

3. :KOR  174 pts - World 3

4. :USA  172 pts - World 4

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5. :UKR  161 pts - Europe

6. :ITA  136 pts - World 5

7. :JPN  132 pts - Asia

8. :AZE  120 pts

9. :ESP  116 pts

10. :CHN  114 pts

11. :BUL  104 pts

12. :GRE  101 pts

13. :ALG  100 pts - Africa

14. :GER  95 pts

15. :POL  86 pts

16. :TUR  77 pts

17. :HKG  75 pts

 

Any chance you could (re)publish the rankings of the other weapons ? Thanks.

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9 hours ago, phelps said:

what a shame!

 

the saddest end of the championship we could ever think of

 

Garozzo is totally boiled

 

and it's also a brawl between the coaches! :yikes: :roflmao:

 

by the way, very unsportsmanlike behaviour by :HKG coaches and also very provocative behaviour by Cheung Ka Long on the last hit :redcard: :finger:

according to Tommaso Marini, the referee was going to give :HKG a black card at the end of this brawl, but he and his teammates stopped him, saying that there was just a misunderstanding between Cheung and the audience, since the man from :HKG doesn't speak Italian (of course) but also his English is basically inexistent (that's not good, instead) :yikes:

 

personally, I think there was no misunderstanding...Cheung made the sign "shut up" to the audience after the winning hit...the consequential whistles and insults were more than deserved (no violent act was made and nothing was thrown by the audience, however...it was just a loud disagreement) and when the :HKG coaches in response went against the Italians a black card would have been a correct punishment

 

but this championship had already gone mad with the Kharlan/Smirnova affair and therefore the disciplinary rules in fencing now don't count anything anymore: everybody feels like he/she's authorized to do whatever they want :facepalm: :hairpull: :redcard:

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52 minutes ago, De_Gambassi said:

 

Any chance you could (re)publish the rankings of the other weapons ? Thanks.

 

On 7/29/2023 at 7:36 PM, Vektor said:

Men's Epee Olympic ranking before the final 4 World Cup events

 

1. :ITA  193 pts - World 1

2. :KAZ  172 pts - World 2

3. :FRA  168 pts - World 3

4. :VEN  164 pts - World 4

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5. :HUN  160 pts - Europe

6. :KOR  152 pts - Asia

7. :JPN  142 pts

8. :EGY  138 pts - Africa

9. :GER  105 pts

10. :CZE  104 pts

11. :ESP  104 pts

12. :CAN  103 pts - America

13. :CHN  92 pts

14. :SUI  91 pts

15. :NED  88 pts

16. :ISR  79 pts

17. :ARG  78 pts

 

Women's foil Olympic ranking before the final 3 World Cup events

 

1. :ITA  296 pts - World 1

2. :FRA  256 pts - World 2

3. :USA  228 pts - World 3

4. :JPN  216 pts - World 4

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5. :CAN  182 pts - America

6. :CHN  209 pts - Asia

7. :GER  154 pts - Europe

8. :POL  148 pts

9. :HUN  130 pts

10. :KOR  126 pts

11. :HKG  123 pts

12. :UKR  122 pts

13. :ESP  116 pts

14. :ROU  107 pts

15. :EGY  100 pts - Africa

16. :AUT  97 pts

17. :MEX  72 pts

 

On 7/28/2023 at 7:07 PM, Vektor said:

Women's Epee Olympic Ranking

 

1. :KOR  196 pts - World 1

2. :POL  196 pts - World 2

3. :FRA  192 pts - World 3

4. :ITA  180 pts - World 4

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5. :USA  135 pts - America

6. :SUI  134 pts - Europe

7. :HKG  132 pts - Asia

8. :UKR  124 pts

9. :HUN  122 pts

10. :CHN  114 pts

11. :CAN  113 pts

12. :EGY  108 pts - Africa

13. :EST  105 pts

14. :ISR  104 pts

15. :JPN  98 pts

16. :MAR  68 pts

17. :SWE  68 pts

 

 

Men's sabre Olympic ranking

 

1. :HUN  228 pts - World 1

2. :USA  196 pts - World 2

3. :KOR  193 pts - World 3

4. :FRA  168 pts - World 4

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5. :ITA  148 pts - Europe

6. :IRI  142 pts - Asia

7. :GER  134 pts

8. :EGY  128 pts - Africa

9. :JPN  118 pts

10. :CAN  116 pts - America

11. :CHN  112 pts

12. :ROU  99 pts

13. :GEO  98 pts

14. :ESP  89 pts

15. :TUR  83 pts

16. :TUN  76 pts

17. :UKR  76 pts

 

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12 hours ago, Adriano said:

Thank you France and Italy for "great" start in men's foil........

 

 :(( Chances for Poland or Germany are so small for european place now.

don't worry, :ITA and :FRA will be both in the top 4 by the end of the OQP, I don't think :CHN will repeat themselves too often in the next world cup stages, unless they organize all the competitions in the Far East/at home (imho, it's more dangerous :HKG as they have Chung Ka Long on their side)

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On 7/27/2023 at 12:00 PM, Vektor said:

This situation with Greece should inspire the people in charge to make new qualification rules for fencing. It makes no sense whatsoever that we won't have one of the top fencers in the world in Paris just because Greece doesn't have a good enough third fencer. It's cruel, this isn't judo or wrestling where every NOC only gets one place. 

I agree, it's really such a shame! We have two of the current top 4 in the FIE world rankings in the women's sabre.

 

On 7/27/2023 at 2:04 PM, Mateus Nagime said:

I don't think a rule should be changed because of an exception.

 

Having said that I could see a place for a country with 1 individual quota on the rankings trying a 2nd quota on the OQT.

Well, it wouldn't be the first time that a rule was changed because of us, it happened in women's water polo when our girls were 2011 world champions and 2012 European silver medalists but still did not manage to qualify for London 2012. Now, the world champion is always automatically qualified for the Olympics ;)

 

On 7/27/2023 at 2:42 PM, phelps said:

no, they don't have a 3rd good fencer, unfortunately

 

even with 2 among the best (and even in a "poor" weapon like women's sabre), it's impossible to make the top 8 on regular basis with a 3rd member like Greece's 3rd

It's very unfortunate that Vougiouka retired after Rio 2016, she was only 30 yo which in this sport is not too old. She was ranked in the top 5 in this weapon and with her on the team, I think she would give a big boost to our team, and I'm surprised there wasn't more of a push to bring her back to the sport after Georgiadou didn't get the chance to qualify for Tokyo due to this rule.

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3 hours ago, Makedonas said:

I agree, it's really such a shame! We have two of the current top 4 in the FIE world rankings in the women's sabre.

it might become even worse...

 

:ITA in 2016 had the no.1 and no.2 in the world ranking in women's epee (Fiamingo and Navarria), but since we missed out on the team qualification, only 1 of the 2 girls could participate to those Games (Fiamingo, who won the silver medal)

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