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Fencing FIE World Championships 2023

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This situation with Greece should inspire the people in charge to make new qualification rules for fencing. It makes no sense whatsoever that we won't have one of the top fencers in the world in Paris just because Greece doesn't have a good enough third fencer. It's cruel, this isn't judo or wrestling where every NOC only gets one place. 

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I wanted to do an overall summary, so here it is for all the athletes who made it into the main rounds of the individual events.  61 nations have qualified.   23 athletes - 22 athletes

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Kharlan got disqualification, Ilieve advanced into the R16(

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Preliminary rounds are done in men's sabre and women's epee.    The number of athletes per nations qualified for the Round of 64:   Men's sabre (25 nations)   4 athletes

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The draw for tomorrow is out, this is how the potential Round of 16 looks like...

 

Men's epee

 

:FRA v :NED  ||  :KAZ v :CHN

:JPN v :GER  ||  :KOR v :UKR

:HUN v :ISR  ||  :VEN v :ESP

:ITA v :EGY  ||  :SUI v :CZE

 

Women's foil

 

:ITA v :GBR  ||  :GER v :ESP

:JPN v :AUT  ||  :CAN v :UKR

:FRA v :SGP  ||  :CHN v :KOR

:USA v :HKG  ||  :POL v :HUN 

 

Men's epee is a clusterfuck, I don't want to say anything about it until the first few rounds go down. In women's foil the Germany-Spain and Poland-Hungary matches will be extremely important for the European quota. Egypt will have to beat Colombia in men's epee to secure their quota. 

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3 hours ago, Vektor said:

In case you want an estimation, this would be mine for tomorrow in women's epee.

 

WCh placements:

 

1. :FRA  2. :KOR  3. :ITA  4. :POL  5. :HKG  6. :UKR  7. :SUI  8. :ISR  9. :CHN  10. :USA  11. :EST  12. :HUN  13. :CAN  14. :JPN  15. :SWE  16. :EGY

 

Which would result in this Olympic ranking after the Worlds + Continentals + 1 World Cup

 

1. :FRA  256 pts - World 1

2. :KOR  220 pts - World 2

3. :ITA  156 pts - World 3

4. :HKG  144 pts - World 4

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5. :POL  140 pts - Europe

6. :USA  135 pts - America

7. :UKR  124 pts

8. :HUN  120 pts

9. :CHN  120 pts - Asia

10. :SUI  118 pts

11. :CAN  115 pts

12. :EGY  108 pts - Africa

13. :EST  101 pts

14. :ISR 100 pts

15. :JPN  96 pts

16. :MAR  68 pts

17. :SWE  68 pts

 

 

Obviously it's never this predictable and @phelps might disagree on if this would be the most predictable outcome tomorrow anyway. But you can get an idea where this is going before the last 4 World Cup event. 

The 9-16th placement matches are done in women's epee, so I am updating these.

 

WCh placements:

 

1. :FRA  2. :KOR  3. :ITA  4. :POL  5. :HKG  6. :UKR  7. :SUI  8. :ISR 

 

Which would result in this Olympic ranking after the Worlds + Continentals + 1 World Cup

 

1. :FRA  256 pts - World 1

2. :KOR  220 pts - World 2

3. :ITA  156 pts - World 3

4. :HKG  144 pts - World 4

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5. :POL  140 pts - Europe

6. :USA  135 pts - America

7. :UKR  124 pts

8. :HUN  122 pts

9. :SUI  118 pts

10. :CHN  114 pts - Asia

11. :CAN  113 pts

12. :EGY  108 pts - Africa

13. :EST  105 pts

14. :ISR 100 pts

15. :JPN  98 pts

16. :MAR  68 pts

17. :SWE  68 pts

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1 minute ago, Benolympique said:

what did he do?

In addition to always being argumentative, he is always covering the target. Today in the semifinal he did it 5 (!!) times

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:KOR without a single individual medal at the Worlds for the first time since 2005. Their implosion is strange. It's as if Japan kinda took their place. 

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29 minutes ago, Benolympique said:

can we also have a simulation of the ranking in men's saber?

Okay, let's try this...

 

Predicted WCh placements

 

1. :KOR  2. :ITA  3. :GER  4. :HUN  5. :FRA  6. :USA  7. :CHN  8. :JPN

 

Projected Olympic ranking

 

1. :KOR  217 pts - World 1

2. :ITA  192 pts - World 2

3. :USA  176 pts - World 3

4. :HUN  172 pts - World 4

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5. :FRA  160 pts - Europe

6. :GER  150 pts 

7. :IRI  142 pts - Asia

8. :EGY  128 pts - Africa

9. :CAN  116 pts - America

10. :CHN  116 pts

11. :JPN  114 pts

12. :ROU  99 pts

13. :GEO  98 pts

14. :ESP  89 pts

15. :TUR  83 pts

16. :TUN  76 pts

17. :UKR  76 pts

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