Monzanator 4,499 Posted December 17, 2020 #481 Share Posted December 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Olympian1010 said: I do agree that there have been major, major failures in the worldwide anti-doping movement. There is definitely a case that some athletes/countries/teams get preferential treatment, and that is unacceptable. However, that doesn’t excuse what the Russian Federation did either. If people actually wanted clean sport, there are many reforms that must be put in place to improve the international anti-doping system. The system needs to become more transparent, less nationalized, and more independent. That's not gonna happen in the days of pro sports where sports IS money., You could sell that crap in the 80s when Stenmark or Wenzel got banned for Olympic Games but not now. Even IAAF dropped the 'Amateur' part of their name for instance before a complete name change. Comcast basically tells IOC what to do, how do you expect the sport to be more independent? Multi-billionaire companies run the sports every single day. And those private companies will NEVER become more transparent, they will throw the freedom of speech card at you and you're done. Since you're a journalist you should understand how such huge TV corporations work! The Russian ban is maybe justified but it doesn't justify other nations from being let off the hook. And cheaters like Justin Gatlin being allowed to compete. If Maria Lasitskiene will be ineligible to compete in Tokyo what the FUCK will be Justin Gatlin doing there in first place? rafalgorka, phelps and ahjfcshfghb 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian1010 7,971 Posted December 17, 2020 #482 Share Posted December 17, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Monzanator said: The Russian ban is maybe justified but it doesn't justify other nations from being let off the hook. And cheaters like Justin Gatlin being allowed to compete. If Maria Lasitskiene will be ineligible to compete in Tokyo what the FUCK will be Justin Gatlin doing there in first place? We have different views on most everything, but I absolutely agree with you about this point. Edited December 17, 2020 by Olympian1010 “Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrv86 3,138 Posted December 18, 2020 #483 Share Posted December 18, 2020 Well too bad for clean Russian athletes and Russian fans, but this wa "Vladimir the Great" own doing at trying to prove the world he had the biggest penis around. Too bad the Commonwealth still will manage to avoid any sanctions, especially Kenya & UK heywoodu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnl 691 Posted December 18, 2020 #484 Share Posted December 18, 2020 8 hours ago, Monzanator said: That's not gonna happen in the days of pro sports where sports IS money., You could sell that crap in the 80s when Stenmark or Wenzel got banned for Olympic Games but not now. Even IAAF dropped the 'Amateur' part of their name for instance before a complete name change. Comcast basically tells IOC what to do, how do you expect the sport to be more independent? Multi-billionaire companies run the sports every single day. And those private companies will NEVER become more transparent, they will throw the freedom of speech card at you and you're done. Since you're a journalist you should understand how such huge TV corporations work! The Russian ban is maybe justified but it doesn't justify other nations from being let off the hook. And cheaters like Justin Gatlin being allowed to compete. If Maria Lasitskiene will be ineligible to compete in Tokyo what the FUCK will be Justin Gatlin doing there in first place? The Russian ban is justified due to the findings of it being systematic from the top of the country, moreover athletes who were not under the fault for drug using could still participate under the Olympic flag. but alongside this, I completely agree that every other athlete who caught using drug and been charged as guilty, should also been left outside of competition until 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoodu 15,135 Posted December 18, 2020 #485 Share Posted December 18, 2020 5 hours ago, mrv86 said: Well too bad for clean Russian athletes and Russian fans, but this wa "Vladimir the Great" own doing at trying to prove the world he had the biggest penis around. Mostly this. Russians getting angry at the outside world instead of at the responsible people for this (aka their government), lol. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jur 683 Posted December 18, 2020 #486 Share Posted December 18, 2020 there's no chance Russia Neutral Athletes would lose any already won quota after this, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 7,670 Posted December 18, 2020 #487 Share Posted December 18, 2020 8 hours ago, mrv86 said: Well too bad for clean Russian athletes and Russian fans, but this wa "Vladimir the Great" own doing at trying to prove the world he had the biggest penis around. Too bad the Commonwealth still will manage to avoid any sanctions, especially Kenya & UK OK, now I feel I have to post some of my private photos... mrv86 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 7,670 Posted December 18, 2020 #488 Share Posted December 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Jur said: there's no chance Russia Neutral Athletes would lose any already won quota after this, right? no, no chance...unless they get caught with actual positive tests... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 7,670 Posted December 18, 2020 #489 Share Posted December 18, 2020 13 hours ago, intoronto said: I am not familiar with this one? Please elaborate? it all started with this... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-8513525/British-2012-Olympians-guinea-pigs-Special-Forces-wonder-drug.html and despite it might be something not illegal at that time (not even right now, it seems...as many cycling teams -Jumbo Visma on top- openly say that they regularly use ketonics), surely that was an immoral fully state-funded (through the very generous National Lottery fundings) and hidden operation... and you know, when you feel the need to hide your behaviour, there's a lot to think about it... that might be only the top of the iceberg... intoronto and mrv86 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jur 683 Posted December 18, 2020 #490 Share Posted December 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, phelps said: no, no chance...unless they get caught with actual positive tests... ok thanks. There was the small talk in Spain about the chance of Russia losing the right to compete in the Women's Rugby 7s final qualification tournament and maybe Spain taking their place.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now