NMQ 222 Posted December 10, 2022 #4791 Share Posted December 10, 2022 15 hours ago, Dragon said: I'm afraid this is very poor behaviour from Argentina... I don't like that and won't defend it, but is a bit out of context. There was a lot of heat beteween the two teams before and after the match. Right before that a bunch of dutch players jumped and tried to provoke Lautaro when he was going to kick the last penalty. And if you listen to Messi after the match, I have never seen him so mad with an opponent. It was mostly Van Gaal, but also Noppert (he said he was going to save a penalty) and Weghorst. Again, don't like it, but it was in the context of a battle from both sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kungshamra71 695 Posted December 10, 2022 #4792 Share Posted December 10, 2022 2 hours ago, thepharoah said: actually the news coming from Portugal today is that he'll start today , let's wait and see He will not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoodu 13,663 Posted December 10, 2022 #4793 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 hour ago, konig said: Van Gaal sayed things like "Messi doesnt do nothing in defense" and "we are clear candidates to win the penalties", here the cultural diferences: in Argentina we call this actions like "boquear", a big provocation and coming from the coach is even worse, Weghorst, acording the players, says many things in the match, for that reason Messi sayed to him when he was with the press "que miras, bobo" (what are you looking at?, dumb). Oh, I thought there were actual things being said, but just the standard back-and-forth stuff then Van Gaal is not someone who says those things to provoke, he is being asked about certain things and he answers them the way he thinks. If he sees Messi never does much defending, and someone asks about it, there's zero reason for him to say something else. After the 1/8th finals he also said he was highly unimpressed with Brazil. Which wasn't such a weird thing to say, it seems Spoiler And here, Argentinian players are entirely known for their talking and provoking during matches, I think the memories of the real dirty ones like Ortega and the shame of Argentina's terrible behaviour in the 1978 final are still alive especially for the older people If you'd like to help our fellow Totallympics member Bruna Moura get to the 2026 Winter Olympics, after her car crash on the way to the 2022 Olympics, every tiny bit of help would be greatly appreciated! Full story and how to help can be found here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoodu 13,663 Posted December 10, 2022 #4794 Share Posted December 10, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, NMQ said: I don't like that and won't defend it, but is a bit out of context. There was a lot of heat beteween the two teams before and after the match. Right before that a bunch of dutch players jumped and tried to provoke Lautaro when he was going to kick the last penalty. And if you listen to Messi after the match, I have never seen him so mad with an opponent. It was mostly Van Gaal, but also Noppert (he said he was going to save a penalty) and Weghorst. Again, don't like it, but it was in the context of a battle from both sides. To be fair, this is also part of what makes this specific match-up awesome. Netherlands - Germany, yeah, there was real hate in the 70's, 80's and 90's. People didn't give a fuck about winning Euro '88 the moment the Germans were defeated in the semi's, that was the real final. People like Rudi Völler and Lothar Matthäus were hated with an intensity I don't think will ever come back for anyone. However, nowadays, not much wrong with the Germans. Schweinsteiger had a rather annoying flair about him, but not much else, it's not really a rivalry anymore. Argentina however...man, that's the real enemy here Slightly ahead of Portugal, but that's more recent, so it doesn't beat the rivalry with Argentina. It's as tense as can be, but I love the overall excitement over a knock-out match with Argentina. At least here it really felt like 'shit is on, let's go!' The Dutch team just seriously sucked this year, so yeah...it's a miracle it even got back to 2-2. Edited December 10, 2022 by heywoodu konig and NMQ 1 1 If you'd like to help our fellow Totallympics member Bruna Moura get to the 2026 Winter Olympics, after her car crash on the way to the 2022 Olympics, every tiny bit of help would be greatly appreciated! Full story and how to help can be found here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bestmen 2,611 Posted December 10, 2022 #4795 Share Posted December 10, 2022 We are coming woo woo don't ask me where is located north Africa woo woo you will not find it on the map woo woo cause you can't see farest than your nose woo woo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoodu 13,663 Posted December 10, 2022 #4796 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Must be cool to simply switch to cheering for whoever is from your general area on the map so even if your own team is so bad it can't even qualify, you still have something to cheer for as if it's home If you'd like to help our fellow Totallympics member Bruna Moura get to the 2026 Winter Olympics, after her car crash on the way to the 2022 Olympics, every tiny bit of help would be greatly appreciated! Full story and how to help can be found here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bestmen 2,611 Posted December 10, 2022 #4797 Share Posted December 10, 2022 we didn't hear any provoke woo woo busy with strategy woowoo the best defense is attack woowoo keep it in mind woowoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hckošice 13,339 Posted December 10, 2022 #4798 Share Posted December 10, 2022 (edited) African football history window in 1970 won the first ever point of an African nation at WC in 1986 was the first african nation to win its group and qualify for the Play-Offs in 2022 can be the first African nation to reach the WC Final-Four Edited December 10, 2022 by hckošice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hckošice 13,339 Posted December 10, 2022 #4799 Share Posted December 10, 2022 a lot of empty seats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monzanator 3,641 Posted December 10, 2022 #4800 Share Posted December 10, 2022 26 minutes ago, heywoodu said: Must be cool to simply switch to cheering for whoever is from your general area on the map so even if your own team is so bad it can't even qualify, you still have something to cheer for as if it's home One Polish portal just run a story how Morocco represents the entire Arab world and yeah, I can see why Maghreb region is running behind Morocco even if Algeria was a French colony and Morocco was a Spanish colony etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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