AsensioWillemsen 158 Posted September 7, 2022 #31 Share Posted September 7, 2022 9 hours ago, heywoodu said: Recognized inside the small part of the sports community that is so into these things as we are here, but Zambia winning a medal in boxing or something is definitely not going to make any headlines around the world in non-specialized media - with luck it'll be mentioned somewhere in the final lines of some small article I do get that though, and for small nations it can be quite literally the only time they're ever even mentioned outside of their own country. I mean, if it weren't for Kirani James, I don't think I would ever have heard Grenada be mentioned in any way on TV or in a newspaper. It really depends on the exposure of the sport from the start, yeah. Fiji in Rugby Sevens gets quite some recognition, at least on Belgian TV (which I mostly watch during the Olympics for reasons) Kirani James is another example, or another few nations in athletics like Botswana or the Bahamas. This exposure increases for team sports, naturally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 7,674 Posted September 7, 2022 #32 Share Posted September 7, 2022 11 hours ago, heywoodu said: Recognized inside the small part of the sports community that is so into these things as we are here, but Zambia winning a medal in boxing or something is definitely not going to make any headlines around the world in non-specialized media - with luck it'll be mentioned somewhere in the final lines of some small article I do get that though, and for small nations it can be quite literally the only time they're ever even mentioned outside of their own country. I mean, if it weren't for Kirani James, I don't think I would ever have heard Grenada be mentioned in any way on TV or in a newspaper. actually, I've read and heard Grenada's name a lot of times on tv and newspaper when they talk of "those Nations" where you should go to hide your money (AKA tax haven)... FancyFenchel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoodu 15,135 Posted September 7, 2022 #33 Share Posted September 7, 2022 9 hours ago, phelps said: actually, I've read and heard Grenada's name a lot of times on tv and newspaper when they talk of "those Nations" where you should go to hide your money (AKA tax haven)... I don't have the kind of money that would make me interested in watching or reading items about that, sadly phelps 1 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon 1,844 Posted September 7, 2022 #34 Share Posted September 7, 2022 1 hour ago, heywoodu said: I don't have the kind of money that would make me interested in watching or reading items about that, sadly I bet you prefer to keep your money in the Cayman Islands instead of Grenada. heywoodu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 7,674 Posted September 7, 2022 #35 Share Posted September 7, 2022 18 minutes ago, Dragon said: I bet you prefer to keep your money in the Cayman Islands instead of Grenada. right now, the best place looks to be the State of Delaware, USA plan B, Aruba... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rybak 3,217 Posted September 7, 2022 #36 Share Posted September 7, 2022 Okay, let's do it Tell me later if you like this idea Aquatics - Artistic Swimming [5] Solo (m/w) Duet (w/mixed) Women's Team (w) Aquatics - Diving [12] 3m springboard (m/w) 10m Platform (m/w) Synchronised 3m Springboard (m/w/mixed) Synchronised 10m Platform (m/w/mixed) High diving (m/w) Aquatics - Swimming [37] 50m Freestyle (m/w) 100m Freestyle (m/w) 200m Freestyle (m/w) 400m Freestyle (m/w) 800m Freestyle (m/w) 1500m Freestyle (m/w) 4x100m Freestyle Relay (m/w/mixed) 4x200m Freestyle Relay (m/w/mixed) 100m Breaststroke (m/w) 200m Breaststroke (m/w) 100m Butterfly (m/w) 200m Butterfly (m/w) 100m Backstroke (m/w) 200m Backstroke (m/w) 200m Individual Medley (m/w) 400m Individual Medley (m/w) 4x100m Medley Relay (m/w/mixed) 10km Open Water (m/w) Aquatics - Water Polo [2] - no changes Tournament (m/w) Archery [8] Individual Recurve (m/w) Individual Compound (m/w) Team Compound (m/w) Team Recurve (m/w/mixed) Athletics [49] 100m (m/w) 200m (m/w) 400m (m/w) 800m (m/w) 1500m (m/w) 5000m (m/w) 10,000m (m/w) 110m/100m Hurdles (m/w) 400m Hurdles (m/w) 3000m Steeplechase (m/w) 4x100m Relay (m/w) 4x400m Relay (m/w/mixed) Marathon (m/w) 20km Race Walk (m/w) 50km Race Walk (m/w) 35km Team Race Walk (mixed) Long Jump (m/w) Triple Jump (m/w) High Jump (m/w) Pole Vault (m/w) Shot Put (m/w) Discus Throw (m/w) Javelin Throw (m/w) Hammer Throw (m/w) Heptathlon (w) Decathlon (m) Badminton [5] - no changes Singles (m/w) Doubles (m/w/mixed) Basketball [4] 3x3 Tournament (m/w) - 16 teams per gender instead of 8 Tournament (m/w) Breaking [2] B-Boys (m) B-Girls (w) Bowling [4] - new Olympic sport Singles (m/w) Doubles (m/w) Boxing [16] TBD Men's weights - 8 weights TBD Women's weights - 8 weights Canoeing - Slalom [6] K-1 (m/w) C-1 (m/w) C-2 (m/w) Extreme (m/w) Canoeing - Sprint [20] - just 10 events in canoeing are hilarious small number tbh K-1 200m (m/w) K-1 500m (m/w) K-1 1000m (m/w) K-2 500m (m/w/mixed) K-4 500m (m/w) C-1 200m (m/w) C-1 500m (m/w) C-1 1000m (m/w) C-2 500m (m/w/mixed) Cycling - BMX [4] - no changes BMX Race (m/w) Park (m/w) Cycling - Mountain Bike [4] Men's/Women's Race (m/w) Cross-country short track (m/w) Cycling - Road [4] - no changes, besides more quotas in mens road race, 80 is too few compared to Tokyo's 130, let's say both mens and womens road race should have 100 athletes if consider gender equality, if not 100 for mens and 80 for womens. Road Race (m/w) Time Trial (m/w) Cycling - Track [14] Individual Sprint (m/w) Team Sprint (m/w) Team Pursuit (m/w) Keirin (m/w) Omnium (m/w) Madison (m/w) Time trial (m/w) Equestrian [6] - no changes Individual Dressage (mixed) Team Dressage (mixed) Individual Jumping (mixed) Team Jumping (mixed) Individual Eventing (mixed) Team Eventing (mixed) Fencing [12] - no changes Individual Foil (m/w) Team Foil (m/w) Individual Épée (m/w) Team Épée (m/w) Individual Sabre (m/w) Team Sabre (m/w) Field Hockey [2] - no changes Tournament (m/w) Football [2] U-23 Tournament (m/w) Beach Football [2] - new Olympic sport Tournament (m/w) - with 12 teams per gender Golf [2] - no changes Individual Stroke Play (m/w) Gymnastics - Artistic [14] - no changes Individual All-Around (m/w) Team All-Around (m/w) Floor (m/w) Vault (m/w) Pommel Horse (m) Rings (m) Parallel Bars (m) Horizontal Bar (m) Balance Beam (w) Uneven Bars (w) Gymnastics - Rhythmic [2] - no changes Individual All-Around (w) Group All-Around (w) Gymnastics - Trampoline [4] Individual (m/w) Tumbling (m/w) Handball [2] Tournament (m/w) - 16 teams per gender Judo [14] 7 Men's weights 7 Women's weights Team Event (mixed) Karate [12] - return to Olympic programme 5 Men's weights + individual kata 5 Women's weights + individual kata Modern Pentathlon [2] - no changes Individual (m/w) Padel [2] - new Olympic sport Pairs (m/w) Rowing [18] Single Sculls (m/w) Double Sculls (m/w) Lightweight Single Sculls (m/w) Lightweight Double Sculls (m/w) Lightweight Quadruple Sculls (m/w) Quadruple Sculls (m/w) Pairs (m/w) Fours (m/w) Eights (m/w) Rugby Sevens [2] - no changes Tournament (m/w) Sailing [11] 49er (m) 49er FX (w) ILCA 6 (w) ILCA 7 (m) iQ Foil (m/w) Kiteboarding (m/w) 470 (m/w/mixed) Nacra 17 (mixed) Shooting [19] 10m Air Rifle (m/w/mixed team) 50m Rifle prone (m/w) 50m Rifle 3 Positions (m/w) 10m Air Pistol (m/w/mixed team) 25m Pistol (w) 25m Rapid Fire Pistol (m) Trap (m/w) Skeet (m/w/mixed team) 10 m running target (m/w) Skateboarding [4] - no changes Park (m/w) Street (m/w) Sport Climbing [6] - 20 athletes in each event, per gender Bouldering & Lead Combined (m/w) Bouldering (m/w) Lead (m/w) Speed (m/w) Surfing [2] Shortboard (m/w) Table Tennis [5] Singles (m/w) Doubles (m/w/mixed) Team (m/w) Taekwondo [12] 4 6 Men's weights 4 6 Women's weights Tennis [5] - no changes Singles (m/w) Doubles (m/w/mixed) Triathlon [3] - no changes Individual Race (m/w) Mixed Team Relay (mixed) Volleyball - Beach [2] - no changes Tournament (m/w) Volleyball - Indoor [2] - no changes Tournament (m/w) Weightlifting [10] out of programme due too much doping cases, scandals and mess in the international federation, give chance to come back when all problems will be solved 5 Men's weights 5 Women's weights Wrestling [18] 6 Men's Freestyle weights 6 Men's Greco-Roman weights 6 Women's Freestyle weights Additional Sport [20 events in total in 4 sports] As mentioned above - bech football, bowling, karate and padel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De_Gambassi 1,223 Posted September 8, 2022 #37 Share Posted September 8, 2022 9 hours ago, rybak said: Okay, let's do it Tell me later if you like this idea I think that 10 events for sprint canoeing is perfectly fine and that extra events for diving and shooting is definitely a no-go Generally speaking, if we want even more events and athletes than we already have, something radical would need to happen (splitting the summer olympics, having multiple hosts, an extra week, etc.) I know this is not meant be realistic, but still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaBUru38 208 Posted October 13, 2022 #38 Share Posted October 13, 2022 The Summer Olympics are too large. I would split them into Outdoor (truly summer) and Indoor (autumn?), held in different countries. Outdoor Olympics: athletics, triathlon, road cycling, mountain biking, BMX, open waters swimming, kayaking, rowing, sailing, football, rugby, tennis, golf, field lacrosse, field hockey, beach volley, beach soccer, equestrian, archery, surfing, water skiing, wakeboarding, skateboarding, climbing. Indoor Olympics: indoor athletics, track cycling, gymnastics, pool swimming, diving, futsal, basketball, indoor volleyball, indoor hockey, indoor lacrosse, indoor tennis, ping pong, squash, weightlifting, boxing, karate, judo, taekwondo, ju-jitsu, fencing, wrestling, billiards, bowling. De_Gambassi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaBUru38 208 Posted October 13, 2022 #39 Share Posted October 13, 2022 I would also make as many mixed team events as possible. So first of all I would add more mixed team relays. Tennis, badminton and ping pong would be played with a Sudirman Cup-style format, with a singles tournament and a doubles tournament. Team sports would be played on four quarters (two for each sex), or a best of seven sets (with the last set switching teams every 2 minutes). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 7,674 Posted October 13, 2022 #40 Share Posted October 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, NaBUru38 said: The Summer Olympics are too large. I would split them into Outdoor (truly summer) and Indoor (autumn?), held in different countries. Outdoor Olympics: athletics, triathlon, road cycling, mountain biking, BMX, open waters swimming, kayaking, rowing, sailing, football, rugby, tennis, golf, field lacrosse, field hockey, beach volley, beach soccer, equestrian, archery, surfing, water skiing, wakeboarding, skateboarding, climbing. Indoor Olympics: indoor athletics, track cycling, gymnastics, pool swimming, diving, futsal, basketball, indoor volleyball, indoor hockey, indoor lacrosse, indoor tennis, ping pong, squash, weightlifting, boxing, karate, judo, taekwondo, ju-jitsu, fencing, wrestling, billiards, bowling. how to kill once and forever the already declining interest for the Games... the Olympic are the Olympics also (maybe, mainly) because they have so many sports all together at the same time in the same place... having multiple host, split program or making them too long (or too short) would only meke them worse... Quasit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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