Monzanator 3,862 Posted June 13, 2021 #711 Share Posted June 13, 2021 12 minutes ago, dcro said: Well, that was... Meh. I believe Croatia has simply gotten old. Not enough youngsters breaking trough - unlike England. Vrsaljko is basically Trippier's backup at Atletico? 2018 WC was your high-water mark for this generation IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoodu 13,825 Posted June 13, 2021 #712 Share Posted June 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, Vektor said: But does that even count as an EURO2020 match? I am joking and both teams have earned their place here, but v might be the least interesting matchup in the history of this tournament. It does feel a bit...meh, beforehand, yes Taking a look at last time, it gives me the same feeling as, say, Austria - Hungary or Northern Ireland - Ukraine. Also taking a look at last time: apparently Euro 2016 already had 24 teams, I thought this was the first time Huh, back under my rock I go, apparently. If you'd like to help our fellow Totallympics member Bruna Moura get to the 2026 Winter Olympics, after her car crash on the way to the 2022 Olympics, every tiny bit of help would be greatly appreciated! Full story and how to help can be found here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vektor 3,199 Posted June 13, 2021 #713 Share Posted June 13, 2021 23 minutes ago, dcro said: Well, that was... Meh. This is all the matches so far in a nutshell. I wonder if UEFA will ever make some chances, because having a group stage with 24 teams where 16 of them qualifies to the next round is just awful. There isn't any sense of urgency from many teams because they know they will most likely make it to the next round no matter what. And all of this is because 24 is a terrible number for this kind of a football tournament. The solution to this will probably be that UEFA will expand the EUROs to 32 teams in the future. dcro 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafoo 170 Posted June 13, 2021 #714 Share Posted June 13, 2021 And we have the most arrogant country of euro,congrats England Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monzanator 3,862 Posted June 13, 2021 #715 Share Posted June 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Vektor said: This is all the matches so far in a nutshell. I wonder if UEFA will ever make some chances, because having a group stage with 24 teams where 16 of them qualifies to the next round is just awful. There isn't any sense of urgency from many teams because they know they will most likely make it to the next round no matter what. And all of this is because 24 is a terrible number for this kind of a football tournament. The solution to this will probably be that UEFA will expand the EUROs to 32 teams in the future. This threatens we'll have 8 groups with two clear favorites and 3/4 of the matches in group stage will be one-sided nonsense if we get for instance England, Portugal, Albania & N.Macedonia. And that won't trigger any "urgency" either so we're back to square one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcro 10,196 Posted June 13, 2021 #716 Share Posted June 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, Vektor said: This is all the matches so far in a nutshell. I wonder if UEFA will ever make some chances, because having a group stage with 24 teams where 16 of them qualifies to the next round is just awful. There isn't any sense of urgency from many teams because they know they will most likely make it to the next round no matter what. And all of this is because 24 is a terrible number for this kind of a football tournament. The solution to this will probably be that UEFA will expand the EUROs to 32 teams in the future. At which point they should just abolish all qualifying rounds. #banbestmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcro 10,196 Posted June 13, 2021 #717 Share Posted June 13, 2021 20 minutes ago, Monzanator said: I believe Croatia has simply gotten old. Not enough youngsters breaking trough - unlike England. Vrsaljko is basically Trippier's backup at Atletico? 2018 WC was your high-water mark for this generation IMO. 2018 WC euphoria makes it now tougher than ever before in terms of pressure and expectations. It was much easier at the 2000 Euro, when we simply didn't qualify. #banbestmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prso1000 586 Posted June 13, 2021 #718 Share Posted June 13, 2021 Our problem is the coach. 2018 he Had his great moment. Just perfect timing, great team , all was in our favor. but his knowledge is limited. He is putting the team based on old merits and the players don’t play their natural position. Rebic and Kramaric today, two wasted players. It is time to leave for himand start building a new team, which will be painful and could mean missing one or two large events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vektor 3,199 Posted June 13, 2021 #719 Share Posted June 13, 2021 16 minutes ago, Monzanator said: This threatens we'll have 8 groups with two clear favorites and 3/4 of the matches in group stage will be one-sided nonsense if we get for instance England, Portugal, Albania & N.Macedonia. And that won't trigger any "urgency" either so we're back to square one. It would still ensure that a team almost certainly can't advance to the next round with 3 draws. The top teams are already in an easy position, with only 2 teams advancing from a group at least they can't get away with not beating any of their second/third tier opponents, unlike Portugal in 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monzanator 3,862 Posted June 13, 2021 #720 Share Posted June 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, Vektor said: It would still ensure that a team almost certainly can't advance to the next round without winning at least one match. The top teams are already in an easy position, with only 2 teams advancing from a group at least they can't away with not beating any of their second/third tier opponents, unlike Portugal in 2016. Italy didn't win a game in group stage in 1982 World Cup and still won the title Expansion to 32 teams will make the group stage even more boring IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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