Doping Cases and Bans Thread (2016 & 2017)

[heywoodu 16,146]

5 minutes ago, tigersay said:

It's interesting that people discuss there only the fact of possible disqualification and don't mention any real facts that were said on the conference. Have you mentioned that there were NO names of athletes? It seems that they are afraid to do this, because sportsmen can reply just after that. Rodchenkov had said some months ago that Legkov was one of the dopers - and what's next? Just days later there were all documents from Alexander that he was(and is) clean. I think it would be easy for not-dopers to proof their innocence, but WADA even doesn't name anybody - that can lead to destruction of their report. 

 

No. Their job was not to name athletes, their job was to thoroughly investigate state sponsored doping and the involvement of the Russian state at covering up dozens of positive doping tests before and during the 2014 Olympics. 

[tigersay 35]

13 минуты назад, heywoodu сказал:

 

No. Their job was not to name athletes, their job was to thoroughly investigate state sponsored doping and the involvement of the Russian state at covering up dozens of positive doping tests before and during the 2014 Olympics. 

That picture can be found in the report. How did they count it? Maybe, we can know just couple of names? When were these tests covered? Just something more than Chivas and FSB; people who did the report make FSB at first so clever to think of all that strategy, and after that so stupid to not to clean out all the possible proofs and let Rodchenkov to go out to the USA(if you didn't know, any person except the highest people in Russia who get the access to all secret deals is not allowed to go out of the country).

[DaniSRB 899]

Shocking news are coming from the USA. According to usatoday.com, Maxwell Holt tested positive for doping, as a small amount of meldonium was found in his body on June 10! However, the US Anti-Doping Agency decided that Holt won’t be suspended as the player was not aware  of using the illegal substance.

Allegedly, the US Anti-Doping Agency decided that the player’s former club Dinamo Moscow is responsible for this situation, as the Russian team was giving meldonium to all of its players. Holtreceived meldonium before the Russian Cup in mid-December. 

We all remember the case of Aleksander Markin, who was later released of all charges for doping by the FIVB.

Anyway, the most important thing is that Maxwell Holt will be able to play for the USA at the Olympic Games 2016. 

 

http://www.worldofvolley.com/News/Latest_news/USA/72039/usa-m-maxwell-holt-was-tested-positive-for-doping-.html

Edited July 18, 2016 by DaniSRB

[carivan 73]

hace 3 minutos, tigersay said:

That picture can be found in the report. How did they count it? Maybe, we can know just couple of names? When were these tests covered? Just something more than Chivas and FSB; people who did the report make FSB at first so clever to think of all that strategy, and after that so stupid to not to clean out all the possible proofs and let Rodchenkov to go out to the USA(if you didn't know, any person except the highest people in Russia who get the access to all secret deals is not allowed to go out of the country).

 

There must be legal reasons to not name them publicly. You'd expect McLaren to give the names privately to WADA, IOC and Russia.

[JoshMartini007 2,810]

That graph will likely push Russia to be banned in weightlifting. As for the other sports Russia will likely avoid a blanket ban, but we could see specific athletes getting banned.

[carivan 73]

hace 2 minutos, JoshMartini007 said:

That graph will likely push Russia to be banned in weightlifting. As for the other sports Russia will likely avoid a blanket ban, but we could see specific athletes getting banned.

 

FINA will do nothing because they make FIFA look spotless by comparison.

[Dragon 2,059]

" Lithuanian marathon runner Zivile Balciunaite has been banned for eight years after testing positive for meldonium in April. "

[tigersay 35]

56 минут назад, carivan сказал:

 

There must be legal reasons to not name them publicly. You'd expect McLaren to give the names privately to WADA, IOC and Russia.

Do you really believe that if he would have found changed test of someone of top athletes, he wouldn't say about that? If he gave the names privately just to someone, where are the confirmations of it from these "recievers"? There were no words about it.

[carivan 73]

hace 9 minutos, tigersay said:

Do you really believe that if he would have found changed test of someone of top athletes, he wouldn't say about that? If he gave the names privately just to someone, where are the confirmations of it from these "recievers"? There were no words about it.

 

It's a possibility. He said his mandate was just to investigate and the rest is up to the IOC. That could (and should) include outing the medalists involved. But we'll know more in the upcoming days, hopefully.

[tigersay 35]

Oh, I've found one more thing. Rodchenkov said that doping was also given to Tretiakov. In the list above there is NO skeleton. Where is the truth, WADA?))