NearPup 2,169 Posted January 10, 2022 #321 Share Posted January 10, 2022 2 hours ago, Dennis said: Nil Llop is definitely not going to Beijing: https://www.rfedh.es/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Comunicado-oficial-de-la-RFEDH-en-relación-a-los-criterios-de-clasificación-para-la-competición-de-patinaje-de-velocidad-de-los-JJOO-2022.pdf The Spanish Ice Sports Federation had filed an official complaint with regards to the interpretation of the rules (which we here also interpreted differently). I made a rough translation of the document to English. My Spanish isn't perfect, but I think it gets the message across: Is it clear to anyone how the ISU interprets the qualification rules? I legitimately do not understand how they got the quota and reserve lists they got... I wish the Spanish federation had gotten the CAS involved just so we could get some clarity. And hey, ISU, hire me to write the qualification criteria next time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis 600 Posted January 10, 2022 #322 Share Posted January 10, 2022 27 minutes ago, NearPup said: Is it clear to anyone how the ISU interprets the qualification rules? I legitimately do not understand how they got the quota and reserve lists they got... I wish the Spanish federation had gotten the CAS involved just so we could get some clarity. And hey, ISU, hire me to write the qualification criteria next time. No, nobody seems to understand. The lists we posted here and what was posted on Wikipedia was all in line with each other. Yet, the ISU interpreted the rules in such a way that nobody but the ISU understands how the list was compiled. intoronto 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto 4,254 Posted January 10, 2022 #323 Share Posted January 10, 2022 Just now, Dennis said: No, nobody seems to understand. The lists we posted here and what was posted on Wikipedia was all in line with each other. Yet, the ISU interpreted the rules in such a way that nobody but the ISU understands how the list was compiled. I think they realized we were heading to over 166 athletes and changed it on a whim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NearPup 2,169 Posted January 10, 2022 #324 Share Posted January 10, 2022 11 minutes ago, intoronto said: I think they realized we were heading to over 166 athletes and changed it on a whim The ISU just does not have enough quota spots for speed skating or figure skating (short track could use a little more room but it’s not egregious). That being said, the problem was entirely foreseeable and they could and should have written the document clearly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NearPup 2,169 Posted January 10, 2022 #325 Share Posted January 10, 2022 14 minutes ago, Dennis said: No, nobody seems to understand. The lists we posted here and what was posted on Wikipedia was all in line with each other. Yet, the ISU interpreted the rules in such a way that nobody but the ISU understands how the list was compiled. I should mention for full disclosure that the list on Wikipedia is of my doing :P Dennis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto 4,254 Posted January 10, 2022 #326 Share Posted January 10, 2022 10 minutes ago, NearPup said: The ISU just does not have enough quota spots for speed skating or figure skating (short track could use a little more room but it’s not egregious). That being said, the problem was entirely foreseeable and they could and should have written the document clearly. Blame the IOC. I fear for 2026. Women's Nordic Combined (20-25 quotas) plus ski mountaineering (48 quotas) will need to be found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcro 10,182 Posted January 10, 2022 #327 Share Posted January 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, intoronto said: Blame the IOC. I fear for 2026. Women's Nordic Combined (20-25 quotas) plus ski mountaineering (48 quotas) will need to be found. FIS will have to start cutting max quota per event. Still having 4 per nation is extremely generous compared to, well, any other Olympic federation at this point. intoronto 1 #banbestmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NearPup 2,169 Posted January 10, 2022 #328 Share Posted January 10, 2022 8 minutes ago, intoronto said: Blame the IOC. I fear for 2026. Women's Nordic Combined (20-25 quotas) plus ski mountaineering (48 quotas) will need to be found. At some point I want to sit down and figure out how many athletes I think are needed for the winger Olympics, but it’a absolutely higher than 2900. They are likely adding a women’s team event in ski jumping for 2026, too, which will likely require more quotas in that sport too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian1010 7,488 Posted January 10, 2022 #329 Share Posted January 10, 2022 9 minutes ago, intoronto said: Blame the IOC. I fear for 2026. Women's Nordic Combined (20-25 quotas) plus ski mountaineering (48 quotas) will need to be found. Women’s Doubles in Luge (+30-38 quotas) “Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian1010 7,488 Posted January 10, 2022 #330 Share Posted January 10, 2022 1 minute ago, NearPup said: At some point I want to sit down and figure out how many athletes I think are needed for the winger Olympics, but it’a absolutely higher than 2900. They are likely adding a women’s team event in ski jumping for 2026, too, which will likely require more quotas in that sport too. They could also just cut out the gendered team events in short track and ski jumping to save a few quotas. Could bring max athletes down to 4 per gender for country. “Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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