Summer Olympic Games Paris 2024 Qualification Systems

[prso1000 662]

There are anyway very few sports with pure ranking qualification: 

 

Tennis, Badminton and Judo if am not mistaken. Not sure about Triathlon as I don’t follow that sport at all. 

[Dunadan 1,103]

Nah, long live rankings wherever there is a well established world cup style circuit, as opposed to random qualifying competitions one in a while. Ranking fails mostly happens when they consider way too many lower level tournaments, with 3x3 basketball being the extreme case - a normal ranking with world cup + world series would have been much better, but they had to push for "universality" so...

 

43 minutes ago, JoshMartini007 said:

some rankings are horrible in predicting who is actually the best.

predicting is not their purpose though, rankings are only meant to tell who has been among the best in a certain set of competitions in a certain (past) period.  Qualification tournaments, especially in sports with a draw and an elimination format, are a much worse way to find out who is the best

[dcro 10,210]

Just now, Dunadan said:

Nah, long live rankings wherever there is a well established world cup style circuit, as opposed to random qualifying competitions one in a while. Ranking fails mostly happens when they consider way too many lower level tournaments, with 3x3 basketball being the extreme case - a normal ranking with world cup + world series would have been much better, but they had to push for "universality" so...

 

predicting is not their purpose though, rankings are only meant to tell who has been among the best in a certain set of competitions in a certain (past) period.  Qualification tournaments, especially in sports with a draw and an elimination format, is a much worse way to find out who is the best

But then again, just in terms of performing under pressure, direct qualifiers are much more compatible with the Olympic Games.

[prso1000 662]

Here a very good article about the new Artistic gymnastics qualification system, including an as if qualification for 2020. 

 

https://thegymter.net/2021/08/22/fig-proposes-updated-olympic-qualification-process-for-2024-quad-what-does-it-look-like/

major changes will be again 5 spots per team, and no additional spots for NOC which qualify a team 

Less places for all around at the WCH 2023 and NOC placed 13-15 can qualify two athletes 

One spot only for specialist at the 2023 WCH, but two spots qualify via World Cup series in 2024 

One spot for all around via Continentals

 

e.g. Croatia would have qualified one male athlete, but no female in 2020 with the new rules

 

In general I think the changes are ok, the only part I don't like is that NOC which took two or one quota at the WCH in all around, can do that again at the continental championship. In my opinion that is not fair. 

[phelps 7,677]

Quota places for Paris 2024 will be allocated at the 2022-2023 World Championships

 

https://www.issf-sports.org/news.ashx?newsid=3678

[prso1000 662]

2 hours ago, phelps said:

Quota places for Paris 2024 will be allocated at the 2022-2023 World Championships

 

https://www.issf-sports.org/news.ashx?newsid=3678

2022 Championship remains the same, 2023 is new, but still that is only 8 quotas per discipline. The rest will be probably distributed at continental championships etc. Big question mark are the World Cups. In 2019 each WC provided 2 quotas. I think the will be either completely skipped or reduced to one quota. 

[phelps 7,677]

12 hours ago, prso1000 said:

2022 Championship remains the same, 2023 is new, but still that is only 8 quotas per discipline. The rest will be probably distributed at continental championships etc. Big question mark are the World Cups. In 2019 each WC provided 2 quotas. I think the will be either completely skipped or reduced to one quota. 

on the Italian press, they say that's only the first allocation, but the next ISSF board would eventually explain also how quota places will be awarded at world cup events (they are sure it won't change much from the Tokyo system, barring the fewer spots available -it might be that there will be some earlier world cup events giving only 1 quota place available and some late world cup stages awarding 2 quota places...even fewer continental spots available are not out of order yet)...

 

in any case, it all will be known next year...

[Vic Liu 1,682]

From Chinese OG champion Yang Haoran who attend a briefing session for athletes during President Cup, 

1. 2022 WCh will allocate up to 1 quota per event for each NOC

2. 2023 continental championships will allocate up to 1 quota per event for each NOC

3. rest quotas will by allocated by ranking and no quotas will be allocated through World Cup.

 

It may change because of feedbacks from different sides.

[prso1000 662]

2 hours ago, Vic Liu said:

From Chinese OG champion Yang Haoran who attend a briefing session for athletes during President Cup, 

1. 2022 WCh will allocate up to 1 quota per event for each NOC

2. 2023 continental championships will allocate up to 1 quota per event for each NOC

3. rest quotas will by allocated by ranking and no quotas will be allocated through World Cup.

 

It may change because of feedbacks from different sides.

Could be correct, I also read somewhere there will be no quotas in the world cups any longer 

[phelps 7,677]

5 hours ago, prso1000 said:

Could be correct, I also read somewhere there will be no quotas in the world cups any longer 

it would be a real shame...

 

olympic quota places up for grabs was one of the things that made the world cup stages more exciting (and granted them a true full participation, now there's a high chance to see many WC stages with loughable participation, especially those held in exotic and/or uncomfortable locations)...