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mrv86    354
4 hours ago, konig said:

I was expecting somebody to say this.......a big WTF i said when i read that "sport".

 

This is only the "bonus" sport/event that PASO has been giving to host countries since 2007. Shouldn't be on the program tough, this "sport" is full of dopers.

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vinipereira    909
30 minutes ago, mrv86 said:

 

This is only the "bonus" sport/event that PASO has been giving to host countries since 2007. Shouldn't be on the program tough, this "sport" is full of dopers.

 

So Peru chose this? Didn't know they were good in Bodybuilding.

 

I remember Brazil went with Futsal in 2007 which was a good choice (gold), but it was only ONE event.

 

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intoronto    342
31 minutes ago, vinipereira said:

 

So Peru chose this? Didn't know they were good in Bodybuilding.

 

I remember Brazil went with Futsal in 2007 which was a good choice (gold), but it was only ONE event.

 

Peru chose Basque pelota and bodybuilding. However, surfing was their primary choice, but that was auto added because of its addition to Tokyo 2020.

Canada didn't choose a sport in 2015, but rather a event (women's baseball), which has been dropped from Lima 2019.

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mrv86    354
4 hours ago, vinipereira said:

 

So Peru chose this? Didn't know they were good in Bodybuilding.

 

I remember Brazil went with Futsal in 2007 which was a good choice (gold), but it was only ONE event.

 

And Mexico added Basque Pelota (4 events), while Canada added Women's Baseball.

 

I don't know if they are good, but the sport is popular in that country, so maybe they're expecting a medal. Remember Peru is far from being competitive even at this level.

 

I think they're expecting gold in Men's Singles squash, plus some outside chances in Karate and Surf.

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vinipereira    909
1 hour ago, mrv86 said:

And Mexico added Basque Pelota (4 events), while Canada added Women's Baseball.

 

I don't know if they are good, but the sport is popular in that country, so maybe they're expecting a medal. Remember Peru is far from being competitive even at this level.

 

I think they're expecting gold in Men's Singles squash, plus some outside chances in Karate and Surf.

 

Maybe they can also win one of the long distance events in Athletics, but probably they will end with the least amount of gold medals won by a host nation in quite some time.

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konig    390
3 minutes ago, vinipereira said:

 

Maybe they can also win one of the long distance events in Athletics, but probably they will end with the least amount of gold medals won by a host nation in quite some time.

Exactly, they still being very BEHIND another south americans countrys, for example Ecuador dont have nothing to envy Peru, you and @mrv86 name most of the Peru Chances.

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intoronto    342
6 minutes ago, vinipereira said:

 

Maybe they can also win one of the long distance events in Athletics, but probably they will end with the least amount of gold medals won by a host nation in quite some time.

They only won 2 in Toronto, wow. Maybe they will win 5-6 this time around, but I can also see it going the other way around. 

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MHSN    225
On 12/31/2017 at 13:39, Griff88 said:

Poomsae because Indonesia is quite strong :p

And yes 63 kg and 53 kg is where our best athletes are in :p

 

And archery is so problematic, the compound archers complained that they're in a state of uncertainty...

 

Table tennis - tennis team event is a no because Indonesia 99% won't get a medal :p

 

The volunteer program is confusing, and we don't even have a fixed venue list yet. Basketball will move from its original venue to the same venue with badminton, reportedly basketball matches will start on 8 August....

 

So far it is still ":facepalm:"

 

yeah Indonesia won the gold medal in men's team Poomsae event at the AIMAG 2017 but they beat Iran by a very small margin and South Korea didn't participate. they most probably will win all 4 Poomsae gold medals. but winning silver/bronze is better than winning nothing I guess.

 

 

well OCA website is publishing more details about the events and I'm getting more and more upset and disappointed  . I thught we will have 17 Canoe sprint events but nope . 5 of them will be traditional boat race (Dragon boat right ?)

 

in boxing they dropped 3 heaviest weights !!!!!!! which means 75kg will be heaviest weight there,  :facepalm:

in wegihtlifting they dropped the most prestigious class ! the supper heavyweight !! another sure gold for Iran is gone ! even though I think IWF will change the weight classes completely because of 7+7 rules for Tokyo Olympics. so I assume this is not final

 

in shooting they changed the whole program. we will have 15 Olympic events plus few more . guess what ? 10m running target and running target mixed !!! plus 300m rifle !

 

I was wrong about table tennis, we will have team events actually but they dropped both men and women double ! (mixed doubles will be there )

 

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with this program, Indonesia won't finish worst than 4th , I think there is even a chance for catching Japan for the 3rd place. as for Iran, we are losing so many gold medal chances, I'm not saying we are without chance in these new events . we will win silver and bronze medals but I care more about gold medals at the Asian Games.

 

the only good news is this time we will have the Asian Games two months before the World Champs in Wrestling (which is always our best sport to win multiple gold medals), which means we can send our top team to Jakarta. in past editions that was mostly a mixture of A and B teams. and they were mostly very tired after the World Champs. if we want to win something around 20 gold medals. we need wrestling to win at least 6-7 gold medals.

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Griff88    179
21 hours ago, MHSN said:

 

yeah Indonesia won the gold medal in men's team Poomsae event at the AIMAG 2017 but they beat Iran by a very small margin and South Korea didn't participate. they most probably will win all 4 Poomsae gold medals. but winning silver/bronze is better than winning nothing I guess.

 

You know that Poomsae is a judged event, right? :evil:

 

21 hours ago, MHSN said:

 

With this program, Indonesia won't finish worst than 4th , I think there is even a chance for catching Japan for the 3rd place. as for Iran, we are losing so many gold medal chances, I'm not saying we are without chance in these new events . we will win silver and bronze medals but I care more about gold medals at the Asian Games.

 

the only good news is this time we will have the Asian Games two months before the World Champs in Wrestling (which is always our best sport to win multiple gold medals), which means we can send our top team to Jakarta. in past editions that was mostly a mixture of A and B teams. and they were mostly very tired after the World Champs. if we want to win something around 20 gold medals. we need wrestling to win at least 6-7 gold medals.

4th is too optimistic, even for the most optimistic Indonesian (unless they don't know about sports at all)

 

Getting 5th - 8th is already a "thank God" moment for us. At this point some sports are still waiting for their funding so they can start training, provide supplements, etc. Even our weightlifters have to miss the World Champs because the government failed to allocate money for their participation. I mean if weightlifting can't get such things, how about the other sports like handball or wrestling?

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bestmen    789

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MHSN    225
7 hours ago, Griff88 said:

You know that Poomsae is a judged event, right? :evil:

 

4th is too optimistic, even for the most optimistic Indonesian (unless they don't know about sports at all)

 

Getting 5th - 8th is already a "thank God" moment for us. At this point some sports are still waiting for their funding so they can start training, provide supplements, etc. Even our weightlifters have to miss the World Champs because the government failed to allocate money for their participation. I mean if weightlifting can't get such things, how about the other sports like handball or wrestling?

 

Yeah but you have to beat South Korea for the gold, they are master of cheating in sports and they won't give up gold medals easily. :d btw I remember Indonesia included Poomsae for the 2013 Islamic Games program and Iran won 4 out of 5 gold medals :d 

 

Are u telling me that Indonesia can't win 20-30 gold medals in Pencak Silat, Jet Ski, Paragliding, Bridge, Dragon Boat and Sport Climbing ? and of course Badminton, beside that you have Weightlifting and Wushu. any other sport with realistic "gold" medal chances for you ? Rowing or Karate maybe ? I just saw the Rowing program, so many lightweight events . no surprise :d

 

for a top 6 finish , even 15 gold medals will be enough most probably. even though we have so many big changes in the program, so the medal table might be very different this time. hard to say which countries will gain from this. Sambo and Kurash will be good for our rivals Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan. even though we also can expect gold in Kurash. no idea about Ju-jitsu, they didn't mention if it's Brazilian JJ (ne-waza) or simple fighting system. fighting system would be perfect for Iran but I assume they will go with the Ne-waza system which will give few gold medals to UAE ! I'm quite sure Indonesia is innocent in adding these new martial arts sports. OCA wanted to satisfy few west/central Asian countries .

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