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Ski Jumping FIS Ski Flying World Championships 2020



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58 minutes ago, Monzanator said:

Luge/bobsleigh/skeleton is a low-hanging fruit. Build an ice track and suddenly you can become a force as evident by Latvians and Sigulda.

And yet Norway, France and Japan have their tracks and yet virtually no teams.

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Flying is done on huge-ass hills, of which there are only five in the world. One could sort of compare it with running 5k vs 10k: it's both distance running and generally those who are good in one are

basically, bigger hills, faster inrun speed, way longer distance covered by the jumpers...   then of course, there are also other technical details and especially the mental aspect that play

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17 minutes ago, dcro said:

And yet Norway, France and Japan have their tracks and yet virtually no teams.

Like I say, we :GBR have precisely zero tracks* yet regularly out-perform many nations that do have tracks.  Why?  Because we have lottery finding.
 

* To be exact, about 50m of narrow-gauge railway near Bath to practise starts.

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1 hour ago, Monzanator said:

Style marks got Geiger ahead - plus distance being worth less on ski flying hills.

Geiger's style marks in the first attempt yesterday were way underrated.

 

And regarding distance being less worth in Ski Flying: Geiger's four jumps actually had a total of 936.5 metres. Granerud had a total of 932.5 metres.

 

If Granerud had bad luck (aside from the obvious 0.5 points), than it may have been due to wind conditions in the first attempt.

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1 hour ago, dcro said:

And yet Norway, France and Japan have their tracks and yet virtually no teams.

Norway has always been about cross country skiing. They even hardly had a presence in alpine skiing before the 1990s. They ain't gonna bother with luge or bobsleigh!

 

Just because a country is forced to build a sliding track for Olympic Games it doesn't mean anything. These tracks are easily abandoned once the Games are over and done with. Just look at the Italians and the Cesena 2006 track. It run into economical issues literally within five years and that's despite Italy actually having a strong presence in luge.

 

Has France done anything in luge or bobsleigh since Bruno Mingeon retired? Probably not :p France doesn't even have a proper women's alpine skiing team other than veterans Worley or Noens and that's despite being located in the middle of the Alps of all places :crazy: And you want them to make a run at luge? Not gonna happen.

 

Latvia on the other hand can make a run at the low-hanging fruit because they have ZERO winter sport presence elsewhere (other than hockey). Since they don't have any cross country, ski jumping or alpine skiing relevance, they build the Sigulda track and are cashing in with style.

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2 hours ago, Monzanator said:

Luge/bobsleigh/skeleton is a low-hanging fruit. Build an ice track and suddenly you can become a force as evident by Latvians and Sigulda.

 

4 minutes ago, Monzanator said:

Just because a country is forced to build a sliding track for Olympic Games it doesn't mean anything. These tracks are easily abandoned once the Games are over and done with.

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