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[hide] Preliminary RoundJune 7th - June 20th, 2019 24 Nations, 6 Groups, the 1st and 2nd Nations from each Group and 6 best 3rd ranked Teams among all Groups will qualify for the Round of 16 Group A Date & Time (GMT +2) Nation 1 T1 T2 Nation 2 June 7th 2019, h. 21:00 France 3 0 South Korea June 8th 2019, h. 21:00 Norway 2 1 Nigeria June 12th 2019, h. 15:00 Nigeria 1 0 South Korea June 12th 2019, h. 21:00 France 2 1 Norway June 17th 2019, h. 21:00 Nigeria 1 4 France June 17th 2019, h. 21:00 South Korea 0 2 Norway Group B Date & Time (GMT +2) Nation 1 T1 T2 Nation 2 June 8th 2019, h. 15:00 Germany 2 1 China June 8th 2019, h. 18:00 Spain 1 1 South Africa June 12th 2019, h. 18:00 Germany 3 1 Spain June 13th 2019, h. 21:00 South Africa 0 2 China June 17th 2019, h. 18:00 South Africa 0 4 Germany June 17th 2019, h. 18:00 China 2 2 Spain Group C Date & Time (GMT +2) Nation 1 T1 T2 Nation 2 June 9th 2019, h. 13:00 Australia 1 1 Italy June 9th 2019, h. 15:30 Brazil 3 0 Jamaica June 13th 2019, h. 18:00 Australia 1 1 Brazil June 14th 2019, h. 18:00 Jamaica 1 2 Italy June 18th 2019, h. 21:00 Jamaica 0 1 Australia June 18th 2019, h. 21:00 Italy 1 3 Brazil Group D Date & Time (GMT +2) Nation 1 T1 T2 Nation 2 June 9th 2019, h. 18:00 England 2 0 Scotland June 10th 2019, h. 18:00 Argentina 0 1 Japan June 14th 2019, h. 15:00 Japan 1 1 Scotland June 14th 2019, h. 21:00 England 3 0 Argentina June 19th 2019, h. 21:00 Japan 2 2 England June 19th 2019, h. 21:00 Scotland 1 0 Argentina Group E Date & Time (GMT +2) Nation 1 T1 T2 Nation 2 June 10th 2019, h. 21:00 Canada 4 0 Cameroon June 11th 2019, h. 15:00 New Zealand 1 1 Netherlands June 15th 2019, h. 15:00 Netherlands 2 0 Cameroon June 15th 2019, h. 21:00 Canada 3 1 New Zealand June 20th 2019, h. 18:00 Netherlands 1 2 Canada June 20th 2019, h. 18:00 Cameroon 1 1 New Zealand Group F Date & Time (GMT +2) Nation 1 T1 T2 Nation 2 June 11th 2019, h. 18:00 Chile 0 2 Sweden June 11th 2019, h. 21:00 United States 5 0 Thailand June 16th 2019, h. 15:00 Sweden 3 1 Thailand June 16th 2019, h. 18:00 United States 4 0 Chile June 20th 2019, h. 21:00 Sweden 1 3 United States June 20th 2019, h. 21:00 Thailand 2 2 Chile [/hide]

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The conspiracy people have risen to say, that it was all one big fix. Joshua nothing like his previous matches, didn't use much of his strong right hand, being too friendly with Ruiz after match. The mexican market is one of the biggest for boxing, with millions on hand, especially now with a heavyweight champion. If the big money match with Wilder wasn't going to happen, then why not take another root for the bucks. For me, it was nice to see that Joshua was finally humiliated.

The final standings from me Federer91 1. Chad Haga (21) - 21 2. Pascal Ackermann (1) - 22 3. Fernando Gaviria (1) - 23 4. Caleb Ewan (2) - 25 5. Arnaud Demare (3) - 28 6. Enrico Battaglin (84) - 112 7. Jan Bakelants (15) - 127 8. ----------------------------- 9. Primoz Roglic (1) - 128 10. Elia Viviani (2) - 130 11. Giacomo Nizzolo (8) - 138 12. Thomas De Gendt (8) - 146 13. Miguel Angel Lopez (11) - 157 14. Rafal Majka (4) - 161 15. Simon Yates (3) - 164 16. Vincenzo Nibali (4) - 168 17. Mikel Landa (19) - 187 18. Davide Cimolai (7) - 194 19. Richard Carapaz (15) - 209 20. Hugh Carthy (15) - 224 21. Victor Campenaerts (2) - 226

Campenaerts is my last pick too.

Yeah, now it's going to be way harder to see who are battling for what position, what difference is needed etc. I know they probably want a head-2-head fight and not only single people climbing the hill, with the intervals between them, but it really gives away the fight to chase your opponent..

The world is going to be a better place now.

I get the idea that they want all the big teams to play each other. Have more matches, no small groups, no playing the same teams 4 times like in the past. For me it's fairer this way. But then the no relegation rule is just pure BS. Just make the last 2 teams drop, no matter who they are. With 16 teams, the biggest nations will never be in last either way. Also fix the schedule, like i said in a couple of posts. If you want to make the teams play even more serious, give quotas to the Olympics from the VNL. Make a cumulative table of the 3 editions between OG and the top 2 teams earn a spot. There are ways to make this thing not look like a throw-away competition. PS. Good first game for us and a nice win. Didn't watch it, because it was in the middle of the night here, but from the clips i saw, we played with enjoyment. Great performance by Uchikov and with the return of Sokolov this summer, we can have options in attack.

Federer91 1. Chad Haga (21) - 21 2. Pascal Ackermann (1) - 22 3. Fernando Gaviria (1) - 23 4. Caleb Ewan (2) - 25 5. Arnaud Demare (3) - 28 6. Enrico Battaglin (84) - 112 7. Jan Bakelants (15) - 127 8. ----------------------------- 9. Primoz Roglic (1) - 128 10. Elia Viviani (2) - 130 11. Giacomo Nizzolo (8) - 138 12. Thomas De Gendt (8) - 146 13. Miguel Angel Lopez (11) - 157 14. Rafal Majka (4) - 161 15. Simon Yates (3) - 164 16. Vincenzo Nibali (4) - 168 17. Mikel Landa (19) - 187 18. Davide Cimolai (7) - 194 19. Richard Carapaz (15) - 209 20. Hugh Carthy

It's hard to get excited for a sport that practically has 3 events in the year and they are nowhere to be seen on the TV. No build-up, no promotion, don't know who are the best athletes, are they competing? The European Games are the perfect thing for such federations / sports to get some attention on them. I can't understand, why they don't want to make the event like a mini-Olympics..

This competition is just to close to the end of the club season. I hate seeing teams play without their best players. It needs to start at the end of june, then have a slight break in august, when it's not an Olympic year and have the big championship in september. Way better schedule..

Nibali let him make time, like a second rate rider and paid no attention to him at all, because he was obsessed with Roglic. If he had a tighter control, Carapaz would still be behind him in the GC, as he made virtually no time, when Nibali started competing against him and not Roglic. Still Carapaz hasn't faded (so far), as one would have predicted last week, so props to him. But, if he had been taken seriously from the let go, i don't think he would be the favorite to win the Giro at this moment.

So Nibali is going to lose another GT in the dumbest way.. The guy should have had 6-7 GTs by now...

19. Richard Carapaz

Federer91 1. Chad Haga (21) - 21 2. Pascal Ackermann (1) - 22 3. Fernando Gaviria (1) - 23 4. Caleb Ewan (2) - 25 5. Arnaud Demare (3) - 28 6. Enrico Battaglin (84) - 112 7. Jan Bakelants (15) - 127 8. ----------------------------- 9. Primoz Roglic (1) - 128 10. Elia Viviani (2) - 130 11. Giacomo Nizzolo (8) - 138 12. Thomas De Gendt (8) - 146 13. Miguel Angel Lopez (11) - 157 14. Rafal Majka (4) - 161 15. Simon Yates (3) - 164 16. Vincenzo Nibali (4) - 168 17. Mikel Landa (19) - 187 18. Davide Cimolai

Federer91 1. Chad Haga (21) - 21 2. Pascal Ackermann (1) - 22 3. Fernando Gaviria (1) - 23 4. Caleb Ewan (2) - 25 5. Arnaud Demare (3) - 28 6. Enrico Battaglin (84) - 112 7. Jan Bakelants (15) - 127 8. ----------------------------- 9. Primoz Roglic (1) - 128 10. Elia Viviani (2) - 130 11. Giacomo Nizzolo (8) - 138 12. Thomas De Gendt (8) - 146 13. Miguel Angel Lopez (11) - 157 14. Rafal Majka (4) - 161 15. Simon Yates (3) - 164 16. Vincenzo Nibali (4) - 168 17. Mikel Landa

Federer91 1. Chad Haga (21) - 21 2. Pascal Ackermann (1) - 22 3. Fernando Gaviria (1) - 23 4. Caleb Ewan (2) - 25 5. Arnaud Demare (3) - 28 6. Enrico Battaglin (84) - 112 7. Jan Bakelants (15) - 127 8. ----------------------------- 9. Primoz Roglic (1) - 128 10. Elia Viviani (2) - 130 11. Giacomo Nizzolo (8) - 138 12. Thomas De Gendt (8) - 146 13. Miguel Angel Lopez (11) - 157 14. Rafal Majka (4) - 161 15. Simon Yates (3) - 164 16. Vincenzo Nibali

Nibali got some time on Roglic, but now he has Carapaz to worry about. Needs more fireworks if he is going to win that 5th GT.

I suppose so. People are just not that motivated for EU elections. Even the parties don't give there all, like in the local/national elections. We will have 17 people, if it's 30 or 70%, doesn't matter.

Don't know what the record is for the lowest turn-out, but i'm sure we can take it. Around 17:00 the result is 26% turn-out. EU elections are so far away from the people here. They know, that very, very little of what happens in the EU, can solve their problems, so why bother. Holiday weekend, good weather, many tourism in and out of the country, these elections were in the back-burner.

After the elections here, the next most talked about country is Italy. Lot's of time in the news for League and 5 Stars and no one else. I don't think i've heard any other party being mentioned this whole week from Italy. Things are looking quiet here. But that is normal since the Euro elections are the least interesting for the people here.

15. Simon Yates

Federer91 1. Chad Haga (21) - 21 2. Pascal Ackermann (1) - 22 3. Fernando Gaviria (1) - 23 4. Caleb Ewan (2) - 25 5. Arnaud Demare (3) - 28 6. Enrico Battaglin (84) - 112 7. Jan Bakelants (15) - 127 8. ----------------------------- 9. Primoz Roglic (1) - 128 10. Elia Viviani (2) - 130 11. Giacomo Nizzolo (8) - 138 12. Thomas De Gendt (8) - 146 13. Miguel Angel Lopez (11) - 157 14. Rafal Majka

Federer91 1. Chad Haga (21) - 21 2. Pascal Ackermann (1) - 22 3. Fernando Gaviria (1) - 23 4. Caleb Ewan (2) - 25 5. Arnaud Demare (3) - 28 6. Enrico Battaglin (84) - 112 7. Jan Bakelants (15) - 127 8. ----------------------------- 9. Primoz Roglic (1) - 128 10. Elia Viviani (2) - 130 11. Giacomo Nizzolo (8) - 138 12. Thomas De Gendt (8) - 146 13. Miguel Angel Lopez

The party i always vote came in last, after doing the test. Interesting