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34 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

There may still be a part of the story missing of course, but EBU has refused to give any information whatsoever, so for now we only have the AVROTROS statement to go on and that one tells the story of something that can barely even be called an incident.

 

DQ for that is utterly ridiculous.

I'm sure we'll get a clearer picture of what happened in the coming weeks, but this is just sad regardless

7 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

Apparently there has been no contact with the camera person after the incident (despite attempts to clear things up, she refused). So from what we now know, this seems to have been the situation:

 

- Joost Klein performed in the semi's, then walked off stage rushing to the green room

- There were deals not to film him (apparently a common thing) on the way there

- Against those deals, he was being filmed

- Repeated requests to stop filming were ignored

- Joost then reacted with a 'threatening move' towards the camera (whatever that may be, perhaps a slight swing of the fist, but didn't hit anything)

- Camera person complained about it, then quickly walked away and refused any contact to clear things up

- Police was called because of that and in the end it was enough to disqualify him

 

What the actual hell.

 

Sooooooo he defended himself and that was a huge red flag for the EBU?????

Anyone who's gotten in deep trouble for defending themselves know this all too well

Even spokespersons. This is a mess!

29 minutes ago, Belle said:

I so look forward to TOISC 2024 much more than this shit. 

At this point in time, me too.

The rest of the world vote was supposed to open at 00:00 CEST (6pm EDT) but...

I was shocked at Serbia and Slovenia qualifying, I was sure both were NQs but it is what it is

I'm hoping for Greece, Austria, Georgia, and Malta to qualify (and especially Malta since everyone's writing them off)

It's been more than a week, but here is my personal 12

12 -- 

11 -- 

10 -- 

9 -- 

8 --  (for the record @Fer GUA I found out about Gaby Moreno more than a decade ago so I just have to give points)

7 -- 

6 -- 

5 -- 

4 -- 

3 -- 

2 -- 

1 -- 

R1 -- 

R2 --  

I'm just happy that despite finishing 6th, Team USA 'won' the medal table, so thank you to everyone who gave points.

I mean, did anyone really expect this?

UNITED STATES
Malta	12
Lithuania	11
Portugal	10
New Zealand	9
France	8
Romania	7
Hungary	6
China	5
Slovakia	4
Guatemala	3
Denmark	2
Germany	1

Guess the 12

Yeah, USA voting as normal

UNITED STATES
Lithuania	11
Portugal	10
New Zealand	9
France	8
Romania	7
Hungary	6
China	5
Slovakia	4
Guatemala	3
Denmark	2
Germany	1

Here we go

UNITED STATES
Portugal	10
New Zealand	9
France	8
Romania	7
Hungary	6
China	5
Slovakia	4
Guatemala	3
Denmark	2
Germany	1

Close to having 3 golds here, but it's all good

I don't think there's an entry that I considered 'bad' (apart from Germany, but even that is a stretch)

Greece, Malta, Cyprus, Austria, and Norway are my faves this year. Italy and Croatia also in my top 10.

12 minutes ago, Federer91 said:

I can swap with USA or Mexico. Second session will be much better for me.

I will be willing to, but let's see what @Olympian1010 has to say

I just voted. I actually can't believe it took me a while this time to pick my top 12 but here I am

3 hours ago, Werloc said:

Historically the longest period for voting we ever had, but people & scrambling towards deadlines is just a law of nature  

It's just par for the course

3 minutes ago, Olympian1010 said:

I feel like this might be the first (in a minute, if not ever) that our 12 points match. I can't wait to be proven wrong 

We shall see 

My top 3 is set, but the next 11 or so are fighting for the other places, so my votes will be coming by the end of the weekend

Welcome  and

Back once again for  

Congrats to  for winning the contest. Matt, you did great with hosting despite all the troubles.

And that twist in the end 

3 minutes ago, OlympicIRL said:

And as usual, my tastes are drifting further and further from what is considered the general taste. My 12 points has never won the contest but I think in recent editions I am just useless at predicting who is going to win

Join the club  

11 minutes ago, Werloc said:

I was really scared when I saw how overwhelmingly impactful the topic of religion is in the United States. I've watched this Youtube video recently discussing LGBT and the conversation was completely derailed by Catholicism. 

 

Here in Lithuania, older generation is religious mostly, but I personally don't know anybody going to church on a Sunday. Although, Catholicism is really used as a scapegoat to hate on all of the minorities in the country, because people don't want to take accountability of their own hateful feelings/thoughts and choose to hide behind the 'Bible said so'... 

 

It's really annoying how you can be an absolute awful prick just because of your religious beliefs. 

Yeah, here in Florida, if you're LGBT they do not want to hear from you

Matt, post our votes. I have to do something right now

Just now, Olympian1010 said:

Any guesses who @Vic Liu choose for his 12 points?

It would be hilarious if our pair went out with a bang