[OFF TOPIC] Politics Thread

[bestmen 2,904]

whatever you do ,your organization will be bad cause you are not like me 

[konig 1,556]

2 hours ago, LuizGuilherme said:

Talking about him, we are probably starting the last week under his rule.

 

Big chances of losting in the first round of elections on sunday, thanks God

Well, like investor, i will miss his goverment, Petrobras, Vale and Gerdau pays good dividends, with Lula will return the poverty.

[bestmen 2,904]

Giorgia Meloni is good somewhere and bad in the rest ...she is anti LGBT ...anti EU

but anti religions 

[bestmen 2,904]

She accepts christianity only ,while her ancestor "Romans" have burned Jesus 

[phelps 8,287]

6 hours ago, George_D said:

can someone give the seats of each party in italy elections?

Parliament

 

Righties ca. 44% - 235 seats (FdI -the new fascists 26%, Lega something less than 9%, Forza Italia -Berlusconi 8%, others 1%)

Lefties 26% - 80 seats (the main party, the Democrats are at 19%)

5-star Movement 15.5% - 51 seats

Azione + Italia Vera (they call themselves the "center", but they're just a bunch of opportunists looking at their own personal interests) 7.7% - 21 seats

 

 

Senate

 

Righties 44% - 112 seats (FdI -the new fascists 26%, Lega about 9%, Forza Italia -Berlusconi 8%, others 1%)

Lefties 26% - 39 seats (the main party, the Democrats are at 19%)

5-star Movement 15.5% - 28 seats

Azione + Italia Vera 7.7% - 9 seats

[bestmen 2,904]

Biden in lost like usual ...all money of corruption he got from different countries didn't help to stimulate his brain 

 

[lapaj 420]

20 minutes ago, phelps said:

Parliament

 

Righties ca. 44% - 235 seats (FdI -the new fascists 26%, Lega something less than 9%, Forza Italia -Berlusconi 8%, others 1%)

Lefties 26% - 80 seats (the main party, the Democrats are at 19%)

5-star Movement 15.5% - 51 seats

Azione + Italia Vera (they call themselves the "center", but they're just a bunch of opportunists looking at their own personal interests) 7.7% - 21 seats

 

 

Senate

 

Righties 44% - 112 seats (FdI -the new fascists 26%, Lega about 9%, Forza Italia -Berlusconi 8%, others 1%)

Lefties 26% - 39 seats (the main party, the Democrats are at 19%)

5-star Movement 15.5% - 28 seats

Azione + Italia Vera 7.7% - 9 seats

Is "FdI -the new fascists" the full name of the party?

[George_D 1,473]

32 minutes ago, phelps said:

Parliament

 

Righties ca. 44% - 235 seats (FdI -the new fascists 26%, Lega something less than 9%, Forza Italia -Berlusconi 8%, others 1%)

Lefties 26% - 80 seats (the main party, the Democrats are at 19%)

5-star Movement 15.5% - 51 seats

Azione + Italia Vera (they call themselves the "center", but they're just a bunch of opportunists looking at their own personal interests) 7.7% - 21 seats

 

 

Senate

 

Righties 44% - 112 seats (FdI -the new fascists 26%, Lega about 9%, Forza Italia -Berlusconi 8%, others 1%)

Lefties 26% - 39 seats (the main party, the Democrats are at 19%)

5-star Movement 15.5% - 28 seats

Azione + Italia Vera 7.7% - 9 seats

what will be salvini's and berlusconi's influence in a Meloni government you think? especially in issues regarding EU and stance on war in ukraine

[phelps 8,287]

20 minutes ago, lapaj said:

Is "FdI -the new fascists" the full name of the party?

no, the full name of the party is Fratelli d'Italia (like our National Anthem)...

 

the new fascists is just to explain who they really are...legally the word "fascism" is prohibited in the name of any Italian activity (actually, the apology of fascism is still a crime here, but nobody cares anymore)...

Edited September 26, 2022 by phelps

[phelps 8,287]

9 minutes ago, George_D said:

what will be salvini's and berlusconi's influence in a Meloni government you think? especially in issues regarding EU and stance on war in ukraine

it's difficult to say right now, mainly because Meloni's position about it is not so clear...she's never said anything explicit for or against the Italian support/contribution to the war...

 

certainly Berlusconi will try everything he can to keep her at bay and make his own personal interests as always...but he doesn't have enough votes to be decisive for anything...

 

imo Salvini is not going to count that much, actually he might (should) lose the Lega's leadership, because he's the main responsible for their electoral blow (they were the main party not more than 3 years ago, before the pandemic)...

 

she and her accolites are going to be really dangerous for the individual rights, instead (abortion, LGBTQ+ community but not only...even working people rights might get restricted in favour of the entrepreneurs')...

 

however, i think the main fight will be as usual on the internal issues on economics and funding management, which might lead to big troubles with the EU.

 

personally, I expect things to go worse than before, but not as bad as many people predict...our President and our Constitution won't allow FdI and this government to make too many damages...our political system is well studied to make it impossible for anybody to really change the Country in the deep...

 

p.s. moreover, I don't think this coalition is going to last the whole 5-year span they're suppose to...my bet is that in 2 years time we're gonna go to a new vote (which will change the government once again, as it always happens)...