Wrestling 2016 Discussion Thread

[kapil857 31]

Olympics rigged in favour of Russia, Azerbaijan and Uzbekistan...http://www.flowrestling.org/article/46587-how-uww-leadership-rigged-the-olympic-games

 

any thoughts??

[MHSN 3,779]

4 hours ago, kapil857 said:

Olympics rigged in favour of Russia, Azerbaijan and Uzbekistan...http://www.flowrestling.org/article/46587-how-uww-leadership-rigged-the-olympic-games

 

any thoughts??

 

This is a fantastic research

 

for years, decades, centuries, we knew that, everybody who watches wrestling a bit and understands the rules knew two specific countries always benefits from questionable calls, people mention Uzbekistan less because they were not that good in wrestling to win so many medals, (Taymazov was good enough to win without ref helps)

 

I'm glad they mentioned our Yazdani several times in the article, even though it was also sad, reopening the old wound   these guys should never be around any wresling mat, to be honest they should be in jail by now.

[ledon 13]

vor 17 Stunden schrieb kapil857:

Olympics rigged in favour of Russia, Azerbaijan and Uzbekistan...http://www.flowrestling.org/article/46587-how-uww-leadership-rigged-the-olympic-games

 

any thoughts??

Everybody who had any doubts that there is systematic corruption in Wrestling and that certain countries always benefit from that should read this.

[MHSN 3,779]

It seems UWW officially re-awarded medals from 2008 and 2012 re-testing. even though all of them are from 2008. the only case from 2012 (so far) was Kudukhov, IOC decided to not disqualify him since he is not alive.

 

https://unitedworldwrestling.org/article/todo

 

2008 - Men's Greco-Roman 60kg

Vitaliy Rahimov - Silver medal ==> Disqualification

Nurbakyt Tengizbayev - Bronze medal ==> Silver medal

Sheng Jiang - 5th place ==> Bronze medal

 

2008 - Men's Greco-Roman 96kg

Asset Mambetov - Bronze medal ==> Disqualification

Mark Svec - 5th place ==> Bronze medal

 

2008 - Men's Greco-Roman 120kg

Khasan Baroev - Silver medal ==> Disqualification

Mindaugas Mizgaitis - Bronze medal ==> Silver medal

Yannick Szczepaniak - 5th place ==> Bronze medal

 

2008 - Men's Freestyle 74kg

Soslan Tigiev - Silver medal ==> Disqualification

Murad Gaidarov - Bronze medal ==> Silver medal

Gheorghita Stefan - 5th place ==> Bronze medal

 

2008 - Men's Freestyle 96kg

Taymuraz Tigiyev - Silver medal ==> Disqualification

Giorgi Gogshelidze - Bronze medal ==> Silver medal

Michel Batista - 5th place ==> Bronze medal

 

Edited November 22, 2016 by MHSN

[MHSN 3,779]

We will have World Championships for non-Olympic weights starting from tomorrow, the brackets are out. tough draw for Biaboongard in Greco but it's not that bad for our Ehsanpour in freestyle. I think the level is quite good, interestingly wrestlers from the 2016 Olympics are NOT allowed to compete here.

 

beside that we had World Club Championships in the same venue yesterday and today, important competition because that was the first senior tournament with these new rules in Greco-Roman. I have to admit matches are more interesting and more active because of these rules but yet we had so many matches decided by the referees !! it's hard to score in standing position in Greco in high level matches and then refs will decide the winner. I still think the forced par-terre should be a part of Greco-Roman wrestling.

[Federer91 3,024]

Day 1 finals:

 

Freestyle 61:

Final -  Stieger - Lomtadze 

Bronze 1 -  Chacaev - Ehsanpour 

Bronze 2 -  Siemakin - Gvarzatilov 

 

Greco-Roman 71:

Final -  Cataraga - Korpasi 

Bronze 1 -  Kurak - Aliyev

Bronze 2 -  Maksimovic - Cojocari 

 

Women 55:

Final -  Mukaida - Ologonova 

Bronze 1 -  Galambos - Abdildina 

Bronze 2 -  Otgontsetseg - Hanchar 

[MHSN 3,779]

I thnk they should seriously change the name of "Greco-Roman wrestling" into "Caution wrestling" or something like that. this is terrible, absolutely terrible. if they bring this into the Olympics with these rules, Greco-Roman will be out of the Olympics for sure. these rules are only good for age group or minor events, while in highest level it's really hard to score. in these 2 days most matches were decided by cautions. if you check the results you can see a lot of "1-1" or "2-1" scores. means nobody actually scored and all those points were from cautions.

 

for example tonight in 3 medal round matches, 2 of them decided purely by cautions, and in the final we had only ONE takedown ! which means only one scoring technique in 3 matches, 18 minutes !!

 

and obviously with rules like this, the host nation will benefit the most ! Hungary won nothing in Rio but here with two average wrestlers they finished with 1 gold and 1 bronze !! (btw UWW had to make up for them, Lorincz got robbed blatantly in Rio)

[MHSN 3,779]

UWW is considering a new qualification system for the 2020 Olympics, if confirmed they will use a ranking system, based on world and continental championship and few selected international tournaments. this is just a proposal for now but UWW is seriously working on it.