OlympicIRL 5,532 Posted July 13, 2020 Author #511 Share Posted July 13, 2020 48 minutes ago, dcro said: I propose using Beach Volleyball Olympic tournament formula to decide who progresses of those ranked 3rd. Six 3rd-ranked nations are ranked by their points and vote difference. Top 2 then advance directly, while the remaining 4 progress to repechage playoffs. This will make individual votes during group stage even more important, which I believe is something everyone concerned would appreciate. I know having best runner-up system is probably the neatest way and I am considering it. But then again, I always really dislike that system of advancing teams who are best runner-up of certain groups. Because it's definitely much easier to do well in easy groups and for a team coming 3rd in a tough group, it's much harder to score points. So a best 3rd placed team is very rarely the best 3rd placed team in reality. It's still the most likely option I am considering, I just want to rant about my pet peeve Fly_like_a_don and amen09 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werloc 3,164 Posted July 13, 2020 #512 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Surprised with some names that decided to skip this event. We're used to seeing hckosice, Bohemia, Benolimpique every time. Surprised that a lot of people from multi-juries decided to give this a pass (Italy, Brazil, France, Tunisia) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcro 10,210 Posted July 13, 2020 #513 Share Posted July 13, 2020 2 hours ago, OlympicIRL said: I know having best runner-up system is probably the neatest way and I am considering it. But then again, I always really dislike that system of advancing teams who are best runner-up of certain groups. Because it's definitely much easier to do well in easy groups and for a team coming 3rd in a tough group, it's much harder to score points. So a best 3rd placed team is very rarely the best 3rd placed team in reality. It's still the most likely option I am considering, I just want to rant about my pet peeve Well, at least nobody would get eliminated solely based on the next best rule. Every 3rd placed nation would be guaranteed another head-to-head match at the very least. #banbestmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werloc 3,164 Posted July 13, 2020 #514 Share Posted July 13, 2020 2 hours ago, dcro said: Well, at least nobody would get eliminated solely based on the next best rule. Every 3rd placed nation would be guaranteed another head-to-head match at the very least. Rihanna vs Dua Lipa repechage match. LET'S GO 2010 vs 2020 Olympian1010 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlympicIRL 5,532 Posted July 13, 2020 Author #515 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Man, allocating the judges to matches is an absolute nightmare My criteria for allocating judges are as follows: Judges cannot judge in any match in the same group as their own song 8 judges per match means each judge will be allocated to 16/17 matches. Cannot judge more than 4 matches within a specific group. Must judge at least one match of every song, except those within their group. Cannot judge the same song more than twice. I am so far trying to avoid things like someone judging 2 matches within the same group in a single matchday. I am also spreading the judges matches out as much as possible between the days. The problem is though, while adhering to those rules, it means I am often finding the same judges alongside each other in various matches Before I continue on, does anyone have any ideas on how I can allocate the judges in a better manner? Olympian1010, Agger and Dnl 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcro 10,210 Posted July 13, 2020 #516 Share Posted July 13, 2020 You have put way too much criteria in there. I'd just keep the first 2. Sure, probably not everyone's schedule will be perfectly distributed, but isn't embracing imperfection a part of Japanese culture...? #banbestmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlympicIRL 5,532 Posted July 13, 2020 Author #517 Share Posted July 13, 2020 1 minute ago, dcro said: You have put way too much criteria in there. I'd just keep the first 2. Sure, probably not everyone's schedule will be perfectly distributed, but isn't embracing imperfection a part of Japanese culture...? Well I definitely don't want anyone judging the same song more than twice in the group stages. We want more diversity in the judging. I think I will try with discarding the criteria about spreading the judging across the days. As long as they judge each song once and no more than twice then I guess it makes no difference. I will see how that goes then. If not then I am just going to throw my laptop in the air, see where all the fragments land and read the signs from there Olympian1010 and amen09 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian1010 7,976 Posted July 13, 2020 #518 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Drop the number of judges per match to 7 “Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlympicIRL 5,532 Posted July 13, 2020 Author #519 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Okay, I think I am getting somewhere now. Halfway there, hopefully by tomorrow I will have the judging allocation completed and sent out to everyone by mid-week Olympian1010, Griff88, amen09 and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fly_like_a_don 1,090 Posted July 14, 2020 #520 Share Posted July 14, 2020 6 hours ago, OlympicIRL said: Okay, I think I am getting somewhere now. Halfway there, hopefully by tomorrow I will have the judging allocation completed and sent out to everyone by mid-week For repecharge there should be conventional mode Should be followed. Choosing the 6 giving points 6 to 1.. Then highest 4 win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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