Athletics EAA European Championships 2024

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4 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

Awesome Irish gold! Bronze was the best possible, Klaver just was not good at all, Bonevacia was...mediocre. Klein Ikkink was excellent, Bol was...decent, especially considering the Italian guy got in her way at the exchange and she needed to brake to avoid him. Anyway, without that it would have been silver at best, Ireland was too good.

Klaver was poor but only by her own incredibly high standards!  She was still 0.3s quicker than everyone bar Adeleke on that second leg. Bonevacia was the worst of your legs, for me, by quite a way.

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Ugh, Grøvdal so much deserved that win

 

Battocletti just glued to her wheel for 4900 meters, to use cycling terms.

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7 minutes ago, Epic Failure said:

Klaver was poor but only by her own incredibly high standards!  She was still 0.3s quicker than everyone bar Adeleke on that second leg. Bonevacia was the worst of your legs, for me, by quite a way.

Yes, but that is the standard one has to hold athletes to, especially in relays. Klaver should normally be about a second faster, that's part of why the Dutch team was the pre-race favourite. Bonevacia wasn't great, but definitely would not normally be as much faster as Klaver would be.

Edited June 7, 2024 by heywoodu

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It was to be expected. Grovdal has no sprint finish and she could only win a medal with breaking up the pack with pace.

 

Garcia with NR and Spain steals bronze in the last three meters unlike the race walk.

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4 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

Yes, but that is the standard one has to hold athletes to, especially in relays. Klaver should normally be about a second faster, that's part of why the Dutch team was the pre-race favourite. Bonevacia wasn't great, but definitely would not normally be as much faster as Klaver would be.

Yes and no. Bonevacia is a 44.5 man at his best, and should be expected to run around 45 consistently. He was 46.1 here. That's as far off his best as Lieke was.

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18 minutes ago, Monzanator said:

It was to be expected. Grovdal has no sprint finish and she could only win a medal with breaking up the pack with pace.

 

Garcia with NR and Spain steals bronze in the last three meters unlike the race walk.

By the way. Spain tried to protest to get bronze in the race walk. But the result stands.

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32 minutes ago, Epic Failure said:

Yes and no. Bonevacia is a 44.5 man at his best, and should be expected to run around 45 consistently. He was 46.1 here. That's as far off his best as Lieke was.

But that's not the point. Bonevacia does not run around 45 consistently. He should based on previous years, perhaps, but he doesn't and can't realistically be expected to do so. Klaver can realistically be expected to run under 50 seconds, as she so often does. This was just very poor for her, as she admitted very clearly herself as well. "I just totally lost control", is basically what she said as explanation for her rather big underperformance.

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20 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

But that's not the point. Bonevacia does not run around 45 consistently. He should based on previous years, perhaps, but he doesn't and can't realistically be expected to do so. Klaver can realistically be expected to run under 50 seconds, as she so often does. This was just very poor for her, as she admitted very clearly herself as well. "I just totally lost control", is basically what she said as explanation for her rather big underperformance.

Again, I'm not disputing that Lieke was poor by her standards. But I just don't get why you are seemingly cutting him more slack than you are her!