Vektor 3,196 Posted July 28, 2023 #291 Share Posted July 28, 2023 20 hours ago, Vektor said: Okay, let's try this... Predicted WCh placements 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. Projected Olympic ranking 1. 217 pts - World 1 2. 192 pts - World 2 3. 176 pts - World 3 4. 172 pts - World 4 --- 5. 160 pts - Europe 6. 150 pts 7. 142 pts - Asia 8. 128 pts - Africa 9. 116 pts - America 10. 116 pts 11. 114 pts 12. 99 pts 13. 98 pts 14. 89 pts 15. 83 pts 16. 76 pts 17. 76 pts Men's sabre placement matches are done, so let's see how this Olympic ranking will look if once again wins against in the final (lol, I will not predict our win, it never happens, they always beat us) A lot has changed, and not for the better for the Europeans. 1. 217 pts - World 1 2. 204 pts - World 2 3. 196 pts - World 3 4. 168 pts - World 4 --- 5. 148 pts - Europe 6. 142 pts - Asia 7. 134 pts 8. 128 pts - Africa 9. 118 pts 10. 116 pts - America 11. 112 pts 12. 99 pts 13. 98 pts 14. 89 pts 15. 83 pts 16. 76 pts 17. 76 pts maestro 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 7,213 Posted July 28, 2023 #292 Share Posted July 28, 2023 (edited) 52 minutes ago, JoshMartini007 said: I know it's due to quota limitations, but the team events at the Olympics should be expanded to 12 (obviously the individual spots would expand too). No event in the Olympics should be any smaller than 12 entrants. 46 minutes ago, Vektor said: Men's epee definitely deserves it, it's waaaay too competitive just to have 8 spots. But there's absolutely no way that IOC gives 72 more athlete quotas to fencing. 284 athlete quotas would make it as big as wrestling with less events. imho, if the IOC finally understands that's time to get rid of Olympic Boxing, there would be no problem to enlarge the field of the remaining combat sports like Fencing and Taekwondo (and in part Wrestling, really penalized in the last few edition of the Games), which are already downsized to the bare minimum (especially considering how well widespread they are even at the highest level of play) Edited July 28, 2023 by phelps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 7,213 Posted July 28, 2023 #293 Share Posted July 28, 2023 32 minutes ago, Vektor said: Men's sabre placement matches are done, so let's see how this Olympic ranking will look if once again wins against in the final (lol, I will not predict our win, it never happens, they always beat us) A lot has changed, and not for the better for the Europeans. 1. 217 pts - World 1 2. 204 pts - World 2 3. 196 pts - World 3 4. 168 pts - World 4 --- 5. 148 pts - Europe 6. 142 pts - Asia 7. 134 pts 8. 128 pts - Africa 9. 118 pts 10. 116 pts - America 11. 112 pts 12. 99 pts 13. 98 pts 14. 89 pts 15. 83 pts 16. 76 pts 17. 76 pts I think top 3 are done and dusted could still get in trouble with a couple of bad outings in the next world cup events, but basically it will be a 4-stage showdown between and for the European spot...the draws will be really important (hope to not see any unfair ending because of that) maestro 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 7,213 Posted July 28, 2023 #294 Share Posted July 28, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Vektor said: The placement matches are done in women's epee with the exception of the final. If wins against in the final, this is how the Olympic ranking will look 1. 204 pts - World 1 2. 196 pts - World 2 3. 192 pts - World 3 4. 172 pts - World 4 --- 5. 135 pts - America 6. 134 pts - Europe 7. 132 pts - Asia 8. 124 pts 9. 122 pts 10. 114 pts 11. 113 pts 12. 108 pts - Africa 13. 105 pts 14. 104 pts 15. 98 pts 16. 68 pts 17. 68 pts here it's even more obvious...no way the top 4 would eventually lose their spots the European quota, instead, it's quite a mess...with having a slight but not definitive advantage over and I doubt any other team has any chance to comeback from the deep they've fallen into in Asia, I think still have the chance to overtake but they need to wake up quickly Edited July 28, 2023 by phelps maestro 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecki83 139 Posted July 28, 2023 #295 Share Posted July 28, 2023 8 minutes ago, phelps said: I think top 3 are done and dusted could still get in trouble with a couple of bad outings in the next world cup events, but basically it will be a 4-stage showdown between and for the European spot...the draws will be really important (hope to not see any unfair ending because of that) I just did a rough estimation and if I am not mistaking, than Italy will be 3rd in World Ranking and Germany 6th, so if this is correct, there will be some important match-up in the next World Cups... maestro and phelps 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 7,213 Posted July 28, 2023 #296 Share Posted July 28, 2023 men's Team Epee, Quarterfinals vs vs vs vs maestro 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 7,213 Posted July 28, 2023 #297 Share Posted July 28, 2023 Just now, Mecki83 said: I just did a rough estimation and if I am not mistaking, than Italy will be 3rd in World Ranking and Germany 6th, so if this is correct, there will be some important match-up in the next World Cups... well, at least that will be extremely fair: a series of direct matchups would be perfect (and wouldn't generate any regret on the losers) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 7,213 Posted July 28, 2023 #298 Share Posted July 28, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, phelps said: men's Team Epee, Quarterfinals vs vs vs vs in terms of the Olympic Qualification, good that and lost in the rd of 32, but Tomorrow's matchup between and is crucial for our team we absolutely need to win that and score some big points at the end of the tournament hopefully, also should be stopped by so to allow both the European powerhouses to close down on the top 4 of the OQR Edited July 28, 2023 by phelps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benolympique 1,912 Posted July 28, 2023 #299 Share Posted July 28, 2023 8 minutes ago, phelps said: in terms of the Olympic Qualification, good that and lost in the rd of 32, but Tomorrow's matchup between and is crucial for our team we absolutely need to win that and score some big points at the end of the tournament hopefully, also should be stopped by so to allow both the European powerhouses to close down on the top 4 of the OQR but that's how it will be! Finally, I hope ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlympicsFan 791 Posted July 28, 2023 #300 Share Posted July 28, 2023 So far everything is going according to plan for german fencing. Hopefully they won't mess it up in the remaining competitions. Attachment is the great fabricator of illusions; reality can be obtained only by someone who is detached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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