hoversaBR 441 Posted December 4, 2023 #31 Share Posted December 4, 2023 I think the fact that Australia is weak in boxing is not even the main point. I think the key point in being in the Olympics is to deserve to be there, to win a place in a real competition. I don't see there's much merit in winning a quota when you're the only country competing (sorry New Zealand and the others). Josh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajiv 31 Posted December 4, 2023 #32 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Just for the record Oceania wins more Olympic medals than Africa. So I guess Africa is the weakest continent overall. Hard political sell these days though. Oceania is hopeless at all the combative sports however. (and there are so many medals in this grouping) Australia and NZ are very good at water sports In fact I'd say that they are ordinary in all gymnasium indoor sports. To them sport is an outdoor activity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian1010 7,971 Posted December 4, 2023 #33 Share Posted December 4, 2023 4 hours ago, hoversaBR said: I think the fact that Australia is weak in boxing is not even the main point. I think the key point in being in the Olympics is to deserve to be there, to win a place in a real competition. I don't see there's much merit in winning a quota when you're the only country competing (sorry New Zealand and the others). I see this said in a lot of circles, but I'd love to know the criteria that determines which athletes are more "deserving" to be at the Olympics. I think its a slippery slope to judge qualification on. While Australian athletes may have had an easier route in this case, they still had to train and work for years to get to the level they are at. “Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jur 683 Posted December 4, 2023 #34 Share Posted December 4, 2023 And other times they just have to show at a competition an even with a midly amateur level, you can qualify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshMartini007 2,536 Posted December 4, 2023 #35 Share Posted December 4, 2023 In boxing, the quality from Australia is still good enough to justify a continental quota. It's not like this is wrestling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian1010 7,971 Posted December 4, 2023 #36 Share Posted December 4, 2023 22 minutes ago, JoshMartini007 said: In boxing, the quality from Australia is still good enough to justify a continental quota. It's not like this is wrestling. However, there's a chance some of the smaller NOCs can take quotas there. for instance. “Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jur 683 Posted December 4, 2023 #37 Share Posted December 4, 2023 I just wish that the NOC would do like used to do and rejects those quotas that were won too easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoversaBR 441 Posted December 4, 2023 #38 Share Posted December 4, 2023 2 hours ago, Olympian1010 said: I see this said in a lot of circles, but I'd love to know the criteria that determines which athletes are more "deserving" to be at the Olympics. I think its a slippery slope to judge qualification on. While Australian athletes may have had an easier route in this case, they still had to train and work for years to get to the level they are at. The Olympics is a very restricted competition. While on other continents there are always several countries with a chance of qualifying, here Australia competes in practically all categories without any remotely decent opponent (rare exceptions). I understand the need to have representatives from Oceania at the Olympics, but I can't help but find it unfair. Josh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasolini 251 Posted December 8, 2023 #39 Share Posted December 8, 2023 On 12/4/2023 at 5:18 PM, Jur said: I just wish that the NOC would do like used to do and rejects those quotas that were won too easily. they don't do this anymore. As in BMX cycling, where a guy from RSA was the last at World Championships and guaranteed a quota to Paris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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