Andry84 91 Posted July 29, 2023 #631 Share Posted July 29, 2023 10 minutes ago, OlympicsFan said: 1) If Martinenghi swims 0.01 slower, he doesn't medal. 2) In the men's 4 x 100 free relay Italy might as well have finished 4th (behind GB and the US) 3) In men's 200 free the 10th place was a huge success for De Tullio. You shouldn't forget that multiple faster guys flopped or didn't even compete (Märtens, Pan, Marchand). 4) In men's 200 fly you shouldn't forget that Milak didn't compete, otherwise Razzetti would have been 0.5 seconds away from the final. 5) In men's 200 IM multiple faster guys flopped or didn't compete (Wang, Qin, Kos). 6) Not sure if Franceschi would have made the final if McKeown, Pickrem, Wood and McIntosh would have competed/not been disqualified as well. 7) Poggio was unlucky, not sure how close he would have been to the final if Peaty and Imoudu would have competed (not to mention the two russian guys and Shymanovich who were missing as well). Before this year i would have expected Italy to definitely to better, but in my opinion 4 medals is pretty much a perfect result for them given where they are at right now. I would give the following italian athletes a chance to medal next year: Maybe Miressi (100 free) Maybe Galossi (400/800 free) Men's 4 x 100 free Maybe men's medley relay Martinenghi (100 breast) Ceccon (100 back, maybe 100 free) Quadarella (1500 free) Pilato (100 breast) I think 2-6 medals are realistic in my opinion (Quadarella, Ceccon, Martinenghi + X). Too many if........ ( Many italian swimmers had a lot of health problems in last months buy i didnt mentioned because It doesnt matter , It matters only how they swim in the pool) For next year 1 Gold with 5 total medals would be a very , very good result, 1 Gold with 4 medal good , 3 medals with no Gold not good , 2 medals a complete disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlympicsFan 791 Posted July 29, 2023 #632 Share Posted July 29, 2023 11 minutes ago, Andry84 said: Too many if........ ( Many italian swimmers had a lot of health problems in last months buy i didnt mentioned because It doesnt matter , It matters only how they swim in the pool) For next year 1 Gold with 5 total medals would be a very , very good result, 1 Gold with 4 medal good , 3 medals with no Gold not good , 2 medals a complete disaster. I think it was you who started with what-ifs ... I agree that 5 medals would be very good next year, not sure if i agree that 2 medals would be a complete disaster. It might be a complete disaster based on what italian fans have gotten used to, but in my opinion Italy could win "only" 2 medals without underperforming. I don't know how much money Italy puts into swimming, so that might also have an influence on whether you consider 2 medals a disaster. Attachment is the great fabricator of illusions; reality can be obtained only by someone who is detached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 7,315 Posted July 29, 2023 #633 Share Posted July 29, 2023 3 hours ago, OlympicsFan said: I think it was you who started with what-ifs ... I agree that 5 medals would be very good next year, not sure if i agree that 2 medals would be a complete disaster. It might be a complete disaster based on what italian fans have gotten used to, but in my opinion Italy could win "only" 2 medals without underperforming. I don't know how much money Italy puts into swimming, so that might also have an influence on whether you consider 2 medals a disaster. put a lot of money into swimming...not improving the Tokyo 2020 final score (0/3/2) is definitely a nightmerish result swimming only 2 PBs in the whole tournament this year, it's still a disaster despite all the medals...it means that all the team had a bad preparation hopefully, next year we'll be a little luckier in terms of our best swimmers being healthy all season long and our coaches learn something from this year's mistakes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh 7,421 Posted July 30, 2023 #634 Share Posted July 30, 2023 Final day of the World Aquatic Championships dullard and Topicmaster1010 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topicmaster1010 2,886 Posted July 30, 2023 #635 Share Posted July 30, 2023 Well I certainly wasn't expecting Forrester to beat McIntosh in that heat Josh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topicmaster1010 2,886 Posted July 30, 2023 #636 Share Posted July 30, 2023 dang, almost had a relay swimoff Italy are out maestro and Josh 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh 7,421 Posted July 30, 2023 #637 Share Posted July 30, 2023 Defending champions out in the men's 4x100m medley relay maestro and Topicmaster1010 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topicmaster1010 2,886 Posted July 30, 2023 #638 Share Posted July 30, 2023 Siobhan Haughey swimming the breaststroke leg for Hong Kong maestro and Josh 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh 7,421 Posted July 30, 2023 #639 Share Posted July 30, 2023 Don't think I've ever seen Haughey swim breaststroke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh 7,421 Posted July 30, 2023 #640 Share Posted July 30, 2023 Just now, Topicmaster1010 said: Siobhan Haughey swimming the breaststroke leg for Hong Kong Second time we've posted the same thing at the same time Topicmaster1010 and maestro 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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