Other Multi-Sport Games Discussion Thread

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28 minutes ago, Fly_like_a_don said:

 

Reminds me of 2019 World Military Games in Wuhan hardly a few months ago. 

Yeah, I’ve been thinking about how crazy that was lately. That was my first though when Coronavirus came about.

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50 minutes ago, Vojthas said:

If I were you I'd write an e-mail to the NOCs of organizers (of course, if that Universiade then to FISU or national university sport federation, if that's military then CISM etc.). And don't worry if they don't answer - when you write the second mail they usually do.

Yeah I’ve tried that too. I’ll continue to try, but its so demoralizing.

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On 15/03/2020 at 08:56, Olympian1010 said:

Because the majority of us are in quarantine at this point, and without much sports to watch, I’d like some help with the following. I nearing completion of my PDF results collection (based off what’s available online still), but there’s many games I can’t find PDF results for. So if any of you possess any of the following (or know someone who does, or somewhere I can find them), I’d greatly appreciate it if you could share them with me somehow 

Man, I’ve had zero luck. No other collectors, no federations have reached out to help yet, none of the archival services have what I need, and all the websites are no longer active. Talk about demoralizing, at least I still have a few games to work, or else I’d really be stuck with nothing do in quarantine.

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On 16/03/2020 at 00:17, Vojthas said:

If I were you I'd write an e-mail to the NOCs of organizers (of course, if that Universiade then to FISU or national university sport federation, if that's military then CISM etc.). And don't worry if they don't answer - when you write the second mail they usually do.

 

lol I do that a lot. I mean A LOT , the best answer I received was from Thailand NOC, and it was mostly " sorry we can't help you" (even though they also sent some PDFs.) most of them don't even answer back specially Iranians

 

ps: I usually ask for older reports , so not getting a positive answer is probably more expected

Edited March 17, 2020 by MHSN

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1 minute ago, MHSN said:

 

lol I do that a lot. I mean A LOT , the best answer I received was from Thailand NOC, and it was mostly " sorry we can't help you" (even though they also sent some PDFs.) most of them don't even answer back specially Iranians

So these organizations do have these then? Or at least have the ability to access them? 
 

My biggest fear isn’t that they won’t help, but that they wouldn’t be able to. This is a little reassuring at least. 
 

Any advice as to who’s more helpful: NOCs, LOCs, the actual data companies, or some one else I haven’t listed?

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Just now, Olympian1010 said:

So these organizations do have these then? Or at least have the ability to access them? 
 

My biggest fear isn’t that they won’t help, but that they wouldn’t be able to. This is a little reassuring at least. 
 

Any advice as to who’s more helpful: NOCs, LOCs, the actual data companies, or some one else I haven’t listed?

 

we are talking about two different things, I'm mostly looking for old reports, (and you told me you are interested in games after 2008) no computer at the time, most of them are "books" and someone had to turn then into PDF (apparently nobody did)

 

I'm sure the Iranian NOC has most of those old reports but they are not in PDF, they are hard copies . I had been to Iran NOC academy library, probably few metres away from them but they didn't let me enter. because I had to be a national athlete or I need some kind of paper from one of sport federations

 

but recent reports are probably more available at least there is more chance for that, I contacted Thailand NOC about 2005 Asian Indoor Games, they said sorry we don't have it. but wait a minute it seems there are some PDF left in our computer and they sent me some incomplete reports (at least they tried to help which I appreciate)

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@Olympian1010, @MHSN, if you guys have access to old links where these results were supposed to be, or come across broken/dead links, you can always try to open the links through the Internet Archive (web.archive.org). Through this, and after months exploring obscure forums online, I was able to find all of the results of every stage of the World Cup series in artistic and rhythmic gymnastics since 1999. I also found many results from the rhyrhmic gymnastics Grand Prix series since 1994. I asked FIG for help but they never replied (even after 5 e-mails), but the Internet Archive helped me a great deal and I believe I've found some information even FIG doesn't have anymore. 

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3 minutes ago, thiago_simoes said:

@Olympian1010, @MHSN, if you guys have access to old links where these results were supposed to be, or come across broken/dead links, you can always try to open the links through the Internet Archive (web.archive.org). Through this, and after months exploring obscure forums online, I was able to find all of the results of every stage of the World Cup series in artistic and rhythmic gymnastics since 1999. I also found many results from the rhyrhmic gymnastics Grand Prix series since 1994. I asked FIG for help but they never replied (even after 5 e-mails), but the Internet Archive helped me a great deal and I believe I've found some information even FIG doesn't have anymore. 

We know . We’ve already exhausted that resource. Thanks for the advice though, it is a fantastic resource. I’ve found that gymnastics wiki, and gymnastics archive are some of the better sports communities (in terms of preservation). I’ve come across a few of your Wikipedia entries while we’re talking about this, thanks for helping out the multi-sports wiki team 

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15 minutes ago, MHSN said:

 

we are talking about two different things, I'm mostly looking for old reports, (and you told me you are interested in games after 2008) no computer at the time, most of them are "books" and someone had to turn then into PDF (apparently nobody did)

 

I'm sure the Iranian NOC has most of those old reports but they are not in PDF, they are hard copies . I had been to Iran NOC academy library, probably few metres away from them but they didn't let me enter. because I had to be a national athlete or I need some kind of paper from one of sport federations

 

but recent reports are probably more available at least there is more chance for that, I contacted Thailand NOC about 2005 Asian Indoor Games, they said sorry we don't have it. but wait a minute it seems there are some PDF left in our computer and they sent me some incomplete reports (at least they tried to help which I appreciate)

Yeah it’s rough. That’s why I have absolute respect for people like you and @Dragon who comb through paper resources as well. 
 

I think I already told you why, but the reason I start with 2008 is because that’s when PDF technology went into wide use (at least in multi-sports terms, and not 100s MB per sport), and when I can remember my first multi-sports memory (so essentially the “big bang” for international multi-sports games universe )

 

I guess I’ll hit up a few of the NOCs then. I know Turkey, Chinese Taipei, and Portugal love to post PDFs, so maybe I’ll start with them. I’ll email Qatar about the Pan Arab Games to, since they seem like an NOC who’d keep stuff like that (or have contacts that can make things happen for me )

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16 minutes ago, Olympian1010 said:

Yeah it’s rough. That’s why I have absolute respect for people like you and @Dragon who comb through paper resources as well. 
 

I think I already told you why, but the reason I start with 2008 is because that’s when PDF technology went into wide use (at least in multi-sports terms, and not 100s MB per sport), and when I can remember my first multi-sports memory (so essentially the “big bang” for international multi-sports games universe )

 

I guess I’ll hit up a few of the NOCs then. I know Turkey, Chinese Taipei, and Portugal love to post PDFs, so maybe I’ll start with them. I’ll email Qatar about the Pan Arab Games to, since they seem like an NOC who’d keep stuff like that (or have contacts that can make things happen for me )

 

Actually no you didn't tell me the reason, I assumed maybe you think the world began at 2008 actually I don't mind the file size. I would even go to a library full of coronavirus to make digital copy myself

 

yes Chinese Taipei NOC is probably a good one, never contacted them myself. because they never host those I'm interested in.