[POLL] Do You want Boxing to be included in the Summer Olympic Games 2020 Programme?

[mrv86 3,264]

I voted yes, but it should be conditioned to AIBA changing the current scoring system and an evaluation of the corrupt judges.

[Giovanni Gianni Cattaneo 142]

Totally agree. Yes, is historical, spectacular, fascinous sport. But scoring system have to change.

[phelps 8,633]

6 ore fa, JoshMartini007 ha scritto:

 

Except most boxers are near the maximum weight, you aren't typically going to see an 82kg boxer in the heavyweight. There's a three kg difference between the light flyweight and flyweight, that's having events for the sake of having events.

 

no, boxers are second only to wrestlers in cutting weight before the fight...

your normal 56kg fighter at the moment of the weigh-in (the day before the fight), the day after weights at least 5 kg more (someone has even a bigger spread)...

and this is a big health issue...the more weight classes there are, the less fighters have to adjust their normal weight to the event (and in the lower classes, 3-5 kgs can make a big difference in terms of power, especially if one jumps into the ring too dehydrated because he had troubles to make the weight for his class)...

boxing is always a really dangerous sport (the only one where the opponent's head is the main target)...there no need to make it even more life-threatening by reducing the number of weight divisions...

 

by the way, the Olympic question about it is a totally different problem...it's about corruption and diffused illegality, it's about the people who are driving the bus now (and those who have done it in the past)...

and until AIBA and its Continental affiliated (and their people) are in charge, there's no reason to keep boxing among the sports recognized by the IOC (not only being in the Games program, even giving them just a full recognition like most of the current non-Olympic disciplines is a problem to me)...

[Dragon 2,062]

9 hours ago, JoshMartini007 said:

 

Except most boxers are near the maximum weight, you aren't typically going to see an 82kg boxer in the heavyweight. There's a three kg difference between the light flyweight and flyweight, that's having events for the sake of having events.

Fighters lose weight to get down to the lowest possible weight division. It's OK if you drop a couple of kilos but if you need to lose more it gets very dangerous

https://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/09/sports/olympics/09boxing.html

[dcro 10,210]

I think some may have misunderstood the question. It's not about removing boxing permanently, but rather removing it from Tokyo (for now).

[Dunadan 1,103]

It's too late to remove it from Tokyo, they should have done it in 2016 or at least before June 2017, when they announced the programme.Removing the sport in November/December 2018 would be unfair to athletes. The IOC should strictly supervise the competition in Tokyo and demand that AIBA fix their problems by 2020 in order to be included in Paris 2024, but they must take a final decision 4 years in advance.

[Dragon 2,062]

3 minutes ago, Dunadan said:

It's too late to remove it from Tokyo, they should have done it in 2016 or at least before June 2017, when they announced the programme.Removing the sport in November/December 2018 would be unfair to athletes. The IOC should strictly supervise the competition in Tokyo and demand that AIBA fix their problems by 2020 in order to be included in Paris 2024, but they must take a final decision 4 years in advance.

I agree.

Keep for 2020 unless AIBA completely goes nuts.

Make decision on 2024 by middle of 2021.

[dcro 10,210]

6 minutes ago, Dunadan said:

It's too late to remove it from Tokyo, they should have done it in 2016 or at least before June 2017, when they announced the programme.Removing the sport in November/December 2018 would be unfair to athletes. The IOC should strictly supervise the competition in Tokyo and demand that AIBA fix their problems by 2020 in order to be included in Paris 2024, but they must take a final decision 4 years in advance.

 

Organizing a corrupt competition is equally unfair to the athletes (at least for those that aren't from privileged nations).

[heywoodu 16,430]

20 minutes ago, Dragon said:

Keep for 2020 unless AIBA completely goes nuts.

Yeah, choosing some mobster crime lord as president or something, but like that'll ever happen, haha!

[Dunadan 1,103]

18 minutes ago, dcro said:

 

Organizing a corrupt competition is equally unfair to the athletes (at least for those that aren't from privileged nations).

As I wrote, the IOC must supervise the competition, removing the sport is not the only alternative to a corrupt competition...cancelling it in November (instead of making everything possible in order to have a regular competition) means that a good number of people have unnecessarily wasted two and a half years of their lives.