Topicmaster1010 2,747 Posted September 9, 2023 #281 Share Posted September 9, 2023 (edited) 2023 World Aquatics Junior Swimming Championships - Netanya (ISR) September 4th - September 9th 2023 Meet Results The following new OQTs were achieved Men's 400m Freestyle Alessandro Ragaini Men's 800m Freestyle Kuzey Tuncelli Zhang Zhanshuo Men's 100m Backstroke Miroslav Knedla Oleksandr Zheltiakov Men's 200m Individual Medley Maximus Williamson Men's 400m Individual Medley Zhang Zhanshuo Women's 50m Freestyle Olivia Wunsch Women's 400m Freestyle Jamie Perkins Women's 100m Backstroke Iona Anderson Jaclyn Barclay Erika Pelaez Women's 100m Breaststroke Alexanne Lepage Women's 400m Individual Medley Julie Brousseau Ella Jansen Edited September 9, 2023 by Topicmaster1010 Josh, maestro and Vic Liu 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafa Maciel 1,474 Posted September 29, 2023 #282 Share Posted September 29, 2023 released their final selection policy for Paris earlier this month. In line with the approach used for both Rio and Tokyo, the squad will be capped at a maximum of 30 athletes. Key Points: Selections will primarily be based on results from 2024 British Swimming Championships which are taking place in London Aquatics Centre in early April. In order to guarantee selection, the champion in each individual event is required to achieve the nomination time in the final. The first four finishers in the relevant events will be selected if their collective time is within the required nomination standard for the relay. GB Swimming Performance Director has complete discretion to add athletes to the squad. If not already selected for inclusion in a relay, the silver medalist in each individual event will be considered for selection - if there are places available - where they have achieved the relevant nomination time in the final of their event. Most of the above is pretty uncontroversial, although why they would look to put an arbitrary cap on the size of the squad is beyond me. Where I think GB Swimming have gone mad is in the creation of their own qualifying standards: Female Male OQT BQT Event OQT BQT 24.70 24.65 50 Freestyle 21.96 21.88 53.61 53.55 100 Freestyle 48.34 48.06 1:57.26 1:56.85 200 Freestyle 1:46.26 1:45.96 4:07.90 4:04.98 400 Freestyle 3:46.78 3:45.43 8:26.71 8:25.84 800 Freestyle 7:51.65 7:47.80 16:09.09 16:01.95 1500 Freestyle 15:00.99 14:54.29 59.99 59.89 100 Backstroke 53.74 53.68 2:10.39 2:08.91 200 Backstroke 1:57.50 1:57.28 1:06.79 1:06.31 100 Breaststroke 59.49 59.45 2:23.91 2:23.04 200 Breaststroke 2:09.68 2:08.95 57.92 57.17 100 Butterfly 51.67 51.56 2:08.43 2:07.96 200 Butterfly 1:55.78 1:54.97 2:11.47 2:10.62 200 Individual Medley 1:57.94 1:57.49 4:38.53 4:37.84 400 Individual Medley 4:12.50 4:11.90 OQT = Olympic Qualifying Time BQT = British Qualifying Time There are some events where GB are strong - the men's 200 Freestyle - where I can understand the rationale for having more stringent qualifying standards, but there are plenty of events where these standards will simply ensure that there is no British representation in the event. As an example, GB didn't qualify anyone for the women's 1500m Freestyle event for Tokyo. Our national champion in 2023 was Amelie Blocksidge who is, by all accounts, GB's great hope for the longer distance freestyle events. At 14 years old, she set a PB time of 16:19.67 to take the title. Whilst that is not going to win her a medal at international level, it is within 5 seconds of the official Olympic Consideration Time and it is not difficult to believe that she would be able to bring her time down next year to be within the OCT - indeed she could even bring her time under the OQT - but in order to qualify under GB standards, she would have to find 18 seconds which is much less likely. Under these British standards, we would lose out current qualifiers in the women's 400 freestyle, 100 butterfly and in the men's 800 freestyle. In addition, we would be reduced to 1 participant in the men's 50 freestyle. Given British Swimming endured the embarrassment of having to change their World Championship selection policy halfway through the trials, you would have thought that they would have adopted a more cautious approach but instead, they seem to have doubled down. Noorderling29, Adriano, Topicmaster1010 and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 7,092 Posted September 29, 2023 #283 Share Posted September 29, 2023 7 hours ago, Rafa Maciel said: released their final selection policy for Paris earlier this month. In line with the approach used for both Rio and Tokyo, the squad will be capped at a maximum of 30 athletes. Key Points: Selections will primarily be based on results from 2024 British Swimming Championships which are taking place in London Aquatics Centre in early April. In order to guarantee selection, the champion in each individual event is required to achieve the nomination time in the final. The first four finishers in the relevant events will be selected if their collective time is within the required nomination standard for the relay. GB Swimming Performance Director has complete discretion to add athletes to the squad. If not already selected for inclusion in a relay, the silver medalist in each individual event will be considered for selection - if there are places available - where they have achieved the relevant nomination time in the final of their event. Most of the above is pretty uncontroversial, although why they would look to put an arbitrary cap on the size of the squad is beyond me. Where I think GB Swimming have gone mad is in the creation of their own qualifying standards*: Female Male OQT BQT Event OQT BQT 24.70 24.65 50 Freestyle 21.96 21.88 53.61 53.55 100 Freestyle 48.34 48.06 1:57.26 1:56.85 200 Freestyle 1:46.26 1:45.96 4:07.90 4:04.98 400 Freestyle 3:46.78 3:45.43 8:26.71 8:25.84 800 Freestyle 7:51.65 7:47.80 16:09.09 16:01.95 1500 Freestyle 15:00.99 14:54.29 59.99 59.89 100 Backstroke 53.74 53.68 2:10.39 2:08.91 200 Backstroke 1:57.50 1:57.28 1:06.79 1:06.31 100 Breaststroke 59.49 59.45 2:23.91 2:23.04 200 Breaststroke 2:09.68 2:08.95 57.92 57.17 100 Butterfly 51.67 51.56 2:08.43 2:07.96 200 Butterfly 1:55.78 1:54.97 2:11.47 2:10.62 200 Individual Medley 1:57.94 1:57.49 4:38.53 4:37.84 400 Individual Medley 4:12.50 4:11.90 OQT = Olympic Qualifying Time BQT = British Qualifying Time There are some events where GB are strong - the men's 200 Freestyle - where I can understand the rationale for having more stringent qualifying standards, but there are plenty of events where these standards will simply ensure that there is no British representation in the event. As an example, GB didn't qualify anyone for the women's 1500m Freestyle event for Tokyo. Our national champion in 2023 was Amelie Blocksidge who is, by all accounts, GB's great hope for the longer distance freestyle events. At 14 years old, she set a PB time of 16:19.67 to take the title. Whilst that is not going to win her a medal at international level, it is within 5 seconds of the official Olympic Consideration Time and it is not difficult to believe that she would be able to bring her time down next year to be within the OCT - indeed she could even bring her time under the OQT - but in order to qualify under GB standards, she would have to find 18 seconds which is much less likely. Under these British standards, we would lose out current qualifiers in the women's 400 freestyle, 100 butterfly and in the men's 800 freestyle. In addition, we would be reduced to 1 participant in the men's 50 freestyle. Given British Swimming endured the embarrassment of having to change their World Championship selection policy halfway through the trials, you would have thought that they would have adopted a more cautious approach but instead, they seem to have doubled down. * it's the exact time of the last qualified swimmer to the 2023 world champs final basically it's the same thing that Italy has done for years (the only difference is that we normally use the last qualifying time to the semis, the final wouldn't make sense for us) they just want all the swimmers to show they're capable of clockings that would have a real chance to make the final Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topicmaster1010 2,747 Posted September 29, 2023 #284 Share Posted September 29, 2023 (edited) Swimming at the 19th Asian Games - Hangzhou (CHN) September 24th - September 29th 2023 Meet Results The following new OQTs were achieved Men's 50m Freestyle Ji Yuchan Pan Zhanle Men's 100m Freestyle Wang Haoyu Men's 200m Freestyle Hidenari Mano Wang Shun Men's 800m Freestyle Fei Liwei Nguyen Huy Hoang Men's 100m Backstroke Lee Juho Men's 200m Backstroke Lee Juho Xu Jiayu Men's 100m Breaststroke Choi Dongyeol Men's 100m Butterfly Wang Changhao Men's 200m Individual Medley Qin Haiyang Wang Shun Women's 100m Freestyle Yang Junxuan Women's 400m Freestyle Ma Yonghui Women's 1500m Freestyle Gao Weizhong Women's 200m Backstroke Lee Eunji Women's 200m Breaststroke Ye Shiwen Women's 200m Butterfly Yu Liyan Zhang Yufei Women's 200m Individual Medley Kim Seoyeong Women's 400m Individual Medley Yu Yiting Edited October 1, 2023 by Topicmaster1010 maestro and Josh 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafa Maciel 1,474 Posted September 29, 2023 #285 Share Posted September 29, 2023 6 hours ago, phelps said: * it's the exact time of the last qualified swimmer to the 2023 world champs final basically it's the same thing that Italy has done for years (the only difference is that we normally use the last qualifying time to the semis, the final wouldn't make sense for us) they just want all the swimmers to show they're capable of clockings that would have a real chance to make the final For most of the events, it doesn't make sense for GB either and given this approach didn't work at the trials for Worlds this year, I would have expected them to lower their expectations a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpjmcevoy 227 Posted September 29, 2023 #286 Share Posted September 29, 2023 5 hours ago, Rafa Maciel said: For most of the events, it doesn't make sense for GB either and given this approach didn't work at the trials for Worlds this year, I would have expected them to lower their expectations a little. What it DOES do is give maximum flexibility for selectors in terms of the relays At this stage, a lot depends on Peaty, but if he comes back even 90-95% of the athlete he was prior to 2022, then the following relays are actual medal hopes : Mens 4 x 100 freestyle Men's 4 x 100 medley Men's 4 x 200 freestyle Mixed 4 x 100 medley Women's 4 x 200 freestyle (at a push if all the planets align) Of course, they still have to qualify most of these relays, of which the 4 x 100 free is the sticky one - they HAVE to go and at least register a heat time in the 2024 Worlds for that one - they may well already have the times in the others. There are a handful of juniors/near juniors who they'd bring if they had the least cop on, Blocksidge the most obvious, but I'd argue Leah Schlossen, Oscar Bilbao and Phoebe Cooper too. women's side remains weak, but most of the new shoots at this moment seem to be on that side, perhaps for the first time in a wee while... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topicmaster1010 2,747 Posted October 9, 2023 #287 Share Posted October 9, 2023 2023 Hong Kong Age Group Swimming Championships - Hong Kong (HKG) October 6th - October 8th 2023 Meet Results No new OQTs were achieved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topicmaster1010 2,747 Posted October 9, 2023 #288 Share Posted October 9, 2023 (edited) 2023 World Aquatics Swimming World Cup - Berlin (GER) October 6th - October 8th 2023 Meet Results The following new OQTs were achieved Men's 100m Freestyle Thomas Ceccon Men's 200m Freestyle Maximillian Giuliani Men's 200m Backstroke Thomas Ceccon Men's 100m Breaststroke Caspar Corbeau Men's 100m Butterfly Michael Andrew Ben Armbruster Women's 50m Freestyle Bronte Campbell Torri Huske Women's 200m Breaststroke Jenna Strauch Edited October 16, 2023 by Topicmaster1010 Josh and maestro 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topicmaster1010 2,747 Posted October 16, 2023 #289 Share Posted October 16, 2023 2023 World Aquatics Swimming World Cup - Athens (GRE) October 13th - October 15th 2023 Meet Results The following new OQTs were achieved Men's 200m Butterfly Matt Sates Women's 100m Freestyle Bronte Campbell Women's 100m Butterfly Sarah Sjöström maestro, dullard and Josh 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topicmaster1010 2,747 Posted October 17, 2023 #290 Share Posted October 17, 2023 2023 Turkish Turkcell Open National Team Selection Meet - Edirne (TUR) April 27th - April 29th 2023 Meet Results The following new OQTs were achieved Men's 100m Breaststroke Berkay Ogretir *Note: This was a late addition to the qualification events. Kuzey Tuncelli also achieved the OQT for the first time at this event. maestro and Josh 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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