Quotas for
in men's C1.
ExpandBut if the K2 boat is made up of athletes already qualified through the K4/K1 boats or is made up of 1 new athlete and 1 already qualified athlete, then they would be able to use all three quotas?
Yes, I think that's the idea because that's exactly our plan in men's kayak. 4 athlete quotas in K4, +1 athlete quota in K2 (Kopasz) and +1 athlete quota in K1 (Varga).
ExpandA question to the specialists here:
let’s assume a country wins a K4 and K1 quota here at the WCH.
The same country wins a K2 quota at the continental qualifier.
i guess they have to give back the K1 quota but how does the reallocation work? Does the quota go to the next eligible NOC at WCH?
Yeah, I think that's how it works. The federation has to choose which quota they reject because they can't have 7 athlete quotas, and they will obviously choose K1, not K2, so the K1 quota gets reallocated to the next best placed unqualified athlete.
Yeah, in men's K4 is the only boat that benefited from the continental quotas.
We will have 4 finals tomorrow in Olympic events, here are the athletes in them who already won quotas:
Men's C1 1000m
none, this is the first men's canoe Olympic final here
Men's K1 1000m
none, as you would expect there isn't really an overlap between this event and the K4 500m
Women's K1 500m
Csipes
Carrington
Novakovic
So this means that the 6 other athletes in Final A already won the athlete quotas.
Women's C2 500m
Cirilo Duboys
Jacome
So it's already guaranteed that Jensen will win an athlete quota in C1 due to the inevitable double-up. If both Spain and Cuba finish inside the Top8,
Luzan wins a C1 quota. If all of Spain, Cuba and Ukraine finish inside the Top8,
Borowska wins a C1 quota.
ExpandSomeone with a PhD please explain this:
So, if by chance Lithuania qualifies in K2, we just lose the qualification spot by default, because Maldonis is already in our K4, and then if we want to send a K2 we'll have to requalify in continental championships with a different team member for the 2 available European spots??
You can keep one athlete quota if your other athlete in the K2 boat wasn't in the K4 boat. So you would have 5 athlete quotas and you can compete for the 6th in K1.
Olympic quotas
"Q" - athlete quota
"HQ" - host quota
"D" - doubling-up, reallocation
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WC1 | 22 | 6 |
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beats
and wins the last quota in women's K4.
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and wins the last quota in men's K4.
Olympic quotas
"Q" - athlete quota
"HQ" - host quota
"D" - doubling-up, reallocation
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ExpandCan't Kopasz and Varga just fuck off to K2? That way they can both have a gold medal.
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Kopasz works better with Nádas, they won everything last year. I can see Varga competing with someone else in a K2 boat, if he finds the right pair we can potentially win two medals in men's K2 in Paris.
Edited by VektorYesss, finally the boys did it! We waited a long time for this performance in men's K4, great silver!
out, the rest of the boats qualify to Paris.
Terrible, just an absolutely terrible start from our girls, they had no chance whatsoever to win a medal after that. They really need to get their shit together for Paris because this is unacceptable.
beats
, there goes the Polish dominance out of the window in women's K4. Carrington is coming for all the gold medals in the Olympic events.
Olympic quotas
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"HQ" - host quota
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Edited by Vektor
Women's canoe quotas for
Kopasz wins K1 500, proving that he would likely win a medal here in K1 1000 if we could have two boats like at the Games.
ExpandTo understand this qualification system you need a PhD in Statistics or similar
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Anyway if my understanding is correct the quotas for K1 W are clear now as well.
All the finalists excluding Serbia, Hungary and NZL (as same athlete already won a quota) will get a quote for sure.
That means GER, CAN, POR, AUS, DEN and SWE have their quota save.
But GER and AUS could lose the k1 quota if they qualify in K2
And CAN could lose it if they qualify in both K4 (still open, but likely) and K2.
If all three happens, then 3rd place in b final would get a quota as well?
Is this correct? OMG my brain is dead
Yeah, you are right. I didn't go down that rabbit hole, but yeah, some nations already secured more quotas in K1. It's better to just wait for the results instead of calculating the potential outcomes.
ExpandEverybody who qualified in K4 can use athletes from the K4 to take part in K2/K1, even one doesn't get a quota place in the smaller boats, is that correct? I mean, it's impossile to get a quota in all three Kajak Events anyway, because only 6 starters per gender are allowed.
Yes. In fact, you can have two boats in K1 and K2, just like in Tokyo.
Anyway, I didn't expect that I will be more nervous during our women's semi than our men's.... I don't like what I am seeing in women's kayak, even with the return of two Olympic champions, Csipes and Hadvina, our K4 boat is still too weak to fight for a medal, let alone for the gold. I can accept that we won't dominate WK4 forever, but something most be wrong here because we shouldn't be this weak with Csipes and Hadvina on board. Do we seriously need Kozák to save us after her second pregnancy? Not a good look for the next generation in women's kayak in Hungary....
Expandyes I know for the K4, but we have a chance of qualifying the K2 W and M and the C2 M.. because frankly our level is disastrous
Technically you do have chances to qualify in C1/C2/K1/K2. In reality, we will see what happens when you will focus on K2 to salvage your quota chances.
Olympic quotas
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So, here's where we stand in men's K4.
will fight for 7 spots, 1 boat will miss Paris.
already qualified as the only non-European boat in the A final.
v
will fight for the Asian quota in the B final.
qualified as the only American boat in the Top18.
to the final.
and
are out, they won't qualify for Paris.
Disaster for Czechoslovakia.
qualify to the men's K4 final.
There will likely be 2 continents in the final, which means that the last, 9th placed team in Final A will miss Paris.
This also means that already qualified for Paris. The other 8 European boats will have to fight for 7 places.
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Well, that's disappointing, Varga couldn't take the opportunity to win his first K1 1000 world title. Thankfully next year we will have both Kopasz and Varga in this race.
Quotas for
in men's K1
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