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Very sad if this is true (seems to be), some Cyp-Aze deal. From what i understand it's not like Polish girl was way better but it seems obvious all was set before. 

Hello guys, nice to be back before Paris, hoping for 1 oq here. 

13 godzin temu, OlympicsFan napisał:

Why would runners from ethiopia or morocco want to compete for Poland if they could compete for Germany/GB/France/Switzerland/Netherlands?

ask those who chosen Poland and you will know the answer

16 godzin temu, De_Gambassi napisał:

 

Malgache people are really small... rugby is massively popular over there, but they can't do shit due to size.

it`s only jokin` but sure - probably if we would colonize Madagascar they would be stronger in some sports, their potential is bigger than they show probably and i`m sure we`d help to unfold it in some way. Maybe weightlifting, wrestling, who knows. But we don`t have any colonial past so our approach is clear

12 minut temu, De_Gambassi napisał:

 

Good, then you'd had decent pétanque players by now. How these pétanque players would have helped you in european athletics is still unknow though.

maybe some hurdler or rugby player - who knows? ;), 4x100m would be stronger

Przed chwilą, Dragon napisał:

Aren't there Croat handball players playing for Qatar? 

Is Qatar in Africa?

well - Qatar is a different case, they have only 1 Qatari player i think :), they are "absurdish" - like AZE and TUR

3 minuty temu, heywoodu napisał:

Right, so none of today's podium finishers. There we go.

i`m not sure about this Italian medallist. It`s rahter about a trend...Kenyans and Ethiopians, Algerians, Moroccans all over the course...do they have many Croatians in African handball champs?

It really does look "strange" or "awkward" as a trend...but the same as people watching at their phones riding their bikes

4 minuty temu, phelps napisał:

 

Italy Colonial Empire? c'mon, man! we only went to Ethiopia and Lybia and it was a poor joke...that idiot with a big fat stomach and no hair (and no brain, more than that) who used to lead our Nation in the first part of the previous Century din't even get that Lybia was rich of oil and natural gas (so, we did never benefit from the only thing that we coud have from those stupid "adventures")...

and at that time we never tried to get people from those Countries to ours (slavery in Italy has been cancelled way before the modern era, even if now it's institutional...in the sense that normal working people earn a misery and have almost only constrictions and no rights, but that's just another story)...

 

and nowadays we (as Italian people) can't do anything if many European Nations try to keep all those starving to death Africans coming to Europe within our territory...

now we have more than 10% of our population that's not anymore "100% with pure Italian heritage"...

what should we do? discriminate those kids who came here as little children (or even those who are born in our Nation) and avoid them to have access to our schools, sports structures and eventually to represent Italy?

 

however, if Poland, Hungary and the other Visengrad Nations adopted a decent and really "European" policy about immigration, today they would also have a bunch of Africans getting them some medals in long distance Athletics races...

because every European Nation (also yours) is way richer than those where those people are coming from and they would be a nicer place to live for them...

maybe it's sad, maybe not...but that's the pure truth...

 

p.s. the same criteria apply (at least in part) also to Central and North European Countries...but I don't want to make this thread a political one...so, let's stop this thing here, please...and just enjy the races for what they are aand for the show they put on offer...

am i Visengrad nation? Oh man.....what do you take

and maybe...just maybe...we don`t want to do it, we, Chechs, Hungarians etc like Danish or Finnish federations. Iceland is also rich, Ireland, Andora, San Marino, Malta could do it. As you..it`s a choice

you probably don`t know it but in 30s we were close to colonize Madagascar - we had French acceptance. It`s obvious that if it would happen those ties would last for ages, so Monzanator is right in this aspect. But sure Mo is British and Crippa is Italian for me - 100% in those cases.

Do all those runners from today know 1 word from their "national anthem"?  - well...i hope so  - i`m judging only those "artificial" transfers

38 minut temu, LDOG napisał:

Not the same sport but isn't Poland desperate for Wilfredo León in volleyball?? Everyone in europe has a case these days.

in fact we`re not...he was desperate for us

seriously - him and his manager. Well - he has a Polish wife, he can`t play for Cuba....but we didn`t buy him or ask him...he asked us..with his great love to his Polish wife it`s ok probably. And you are (you in general) pointing 2 cases (him and 1 Ethopian refugee) vs. dozens of foreign athletes in other nations ;). 2-3 cases will always happen but if u try to say that this is a trend in Polish sport you write it on your own risk. From what i know we have 1 Chinese table tennis player left and one wrestler unable to fight for his nation....so it`s not too much :). Oh....some weak swimmer asked to join our team, why not....we are opened to people who love Poland and want to become Poles, feel good amongst other Poles...but we are not looking for anyone or buying them

1 minutę temu, heywoodu napisał:

'Richer' nations have an 'unfair' advantage anyway, because for example GBR will be able to invest huge amounts of money in sport X, whereas let's say Kosovo or Albania can't. Athletes who are born outside the country don't make that much of a difference in that (and then again, one question wasn't answered yet: if they're not 'fair' to compete, is it ok for their children to compete? Or is that still not fair? And their grandchildren?). 

advantage doubles the advantage :), but...maybe...those developed countries can develop their own athletes ;), yeees, it`s more difficultbut maybe....more "fair" ;). Those Kenyans etc...well...if they don`t make a Kenyan team.....shit happens

1 minutę temu, Dunadan napisał:

And you think this is true only for Poland? A few days ago you called Amdouni and Crippa a "bunch of Africans"...Amdouni born in France, Crippa lost his parents and was adopted by an Italian family when he was a toddler...and yet you called them "bunch of Africans"

me? are you serious? really? maybe drink a glass of water

8 minut temu, Dunadan napisał:

Your mind is not clear, it's twisted.

Who is using foreign athletes to pretend they are strong?

By your logic, Muir beating Ennaoui this evening will be "good news for Europe"?

Meucci beating the Polish runner of African origins in 2014 was good for Europe? 

and try not to attack my mind in the begining...maybe ad rem is better than ad personam...or maybe....you`re too emotional

1 minutę temu, heywoodu napisał:

 

So what, someone who happens to be Kenyan or Ethiopian moves to let's say Denmark, for reasons that have nothing to do with athletics, turns out to be the fastest runner there and then should be ignored by the federation or something? All in the name of 'justice for the true Europeans'? 

you see...but what is the chance that he chooses Kosovo or Bosnia or some other poorer country. At the end it is mainly for "richer" nations and it gives them a bit of unfair advantage

3 minuty temu, Dunadan napisał:

Your mind is not clear, it's twisted.

Who is using foreign athletes to pretend they are strong?

By your logic, Muir beating Ennaoui this evening will be "good news for Europe"?

Meucci beating the Polish runner of African origins in 2014 was good for Europe? 

Sophia has a Polish parent, like Artur Partyka case - read before you post sth. We had 1 runner, he escaped his country, he stayed here. Well, i also thought it`s unfair and i wasn`t a fan of this

Przed chwilą, heywoodu napisał:

Bad for who, exactly? 

for nations choosing to try to have their own good runners, for "justice"

sure we could have 3 Ethiopians or Moroccans...but i think it leads to nothing, African-born runners have clear advantage. UK, France is sth different, Italy, Turkey etc...c`mon Ali Mustapha Sprinter Barnes - it`s even a bit funny

2 minuty temu, heywoodu napisał:

 

Ah yes, surely Switzerland is 'using foreign athletes' to pretend they're strong. I mean, he has been living in Switzerland for a long time, has a family there and everything, but I guess that doesn't count. 

 

Will it count as 'European gold' when his son, born and raised in Switzerland, wins gold? Or is that not European enough yet, and does Abraham's grandson have to win gold in order to count as European? Or should every winner simply have a white skin in order to be counted as 'European enough'? 

i`m not judging all cases but a "trend", this trend is very bad

political situation has nth to do with our protests. Well, sure, double gold in W 400m is not enough to be in TOP 5 of the day, Przybyłko`s gold is

8 minut temu, OlympicsFan napisał:

You mean because of his last name? Like Baumgart is a german last name and therefore germany won a gold medal for Poland?

no - i mean he is a Pole and his brothers feel Polish, you see - because of such people like you this forum is difficult to bear, i just joked and ur making sth of it as always, as always in negative meaning, you are not able to do anything else

31 minut temu, Dunadan napisał:

Why is it good for Europe?

not all nations use foreign athletes to pretend they are strong, not all nations and not all people feel it`s normal. My mind is clear about it, it`s easy shortcut but it`s a lie. I mean that it`s legal etc but it is a bit...hmmm.....unfair. Well...maybe each nation has 3 marathon runners from Africa - Iceland too...isn`t it a farce a bit? Not my problem

so good for Europe that Belgian has won, i`m soooo happy

13 godzin temu, OlympicsFan napisał:

Huh?

oh c`mon - Przybyłko, i hope you can keep positive distance from it

Justyna was enormous but Iga is also a great hero!

we even won gold for Germany

Philippines are better than Korea in this sport? Wow (my knowledge is almost zero)