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13 hours ago, Fly_like_a_don said:

I mean yeah the XD pair has struggled with middle - lower ranked teams. Just hope that they face Japanese / Chinese /Korean pairs it'll be easier for them. But unpredictability is feature of Thailand . 

 

Intanon has stamina  issues yes, she looks tired in 3rd set whenever a match extends till there. Busanan is ever improving so fingers crossed. 

 

It's overdue for Thailand to win a badminton medal.

' If not now, when! '

 

 

You're right that a badminton medal is long overdue for Thailand, considering that even less decorated countries in badminton like the Netherlands, Russia and Spain for instance have won a medal.

But there's a reason why Thailand hasn't won a medal in badminton yet and that has to deal with Thai athletes' inability to deal with pressure when it counts the most in general. When the tough gets going, they usually lose and go home. So if anyone were to win a medal for Thailand, that athlete has to be really mentally strong. 

28 minutes ago, Fly_like_a_don said:

My predictions since I quite like to follow Thailand in sports 

 

 

Dechapol Puavaranukroh / Sapsiree Taerattetenachai - For gold (XD Badminton) 

 

Panipak Wongpattanakit- For Gold

 

Busanan Ongbamrungphan AND/OR Ratchanok Intanon - Any medal (WS Badminton) I know the draw isn't that great but still let's hope 

While I appreciate and respect your assessment, I have to respectfully disagree on the badminton picks.

The XD pair is prone to losing to lower seeds because their weaknesses are very easy to be exploited. Sapsiree, while having great defensive racket skills, has lost her athleticism due to her ACL injury in 2017 and has never been a competent front court player. This puts a lot of pressure to Dechapol to not only create shots, but to cover virtually the entire half of their court in order to protect Sapsiree. This means that Dechapol is vulnerable to being exhausted when he has to play 80 percent of the shots. If Dechapol cannot put up his end of the bargain and then some, this pair can lose any match against any pair in the top 10 of the world rankings.

In terms of WS, Ratchanok, while being hailed as the best technical player in the world along with Tai Tzu Ying, has pronounced stamina issues as well as a weak psyche. If you look at her record in major tournaments, whether it be world championships or World Tour 1000 tournaments, Ratchanok is usually eliminated around the quarterfinals or before then. While Busanan may have great stamina, is pretty toothless in offense and provides a lack of variety in her game. Thus, Thailand's badminton crew is far from guaranteeing a medal. 

I can agree that Panipak is a favorite to win gold. But with the periodical lockdowns in Thailand, who knows if she has enough training or not.

While I root for Thailand, since is my parent's homeland, I have to be realistic about their chances and the downward trajectory of their sports development in Olympic sports in the past decade due to infrastructure and sociopolitical issues. 

The Indonesian user in this site, Griff, may or may not verify the accuracy of my badminton analysis.   

 USA:

1. Women's 5x5 Basketball

2. Women's Softball

3. Women's Artistic Gymnastics Team

I'm not putting anything for  Thailand because they have less than 3 safest medal picks. 

1. USA 2. Spain 3. France

With Australia, Slovenia, Argentina and perhaps Nigeria as other medal contenders. 

On 13/07/2021 at 12:15, Vic Liu said:

  - 43

 

Archery - 2

Athletics - 3

Basket 3*3 - 4

Boxing - 3

Judo - 12

Shooting - 4

Swimming - 2

Table Tennis - 2

Weightlifting - 2

Wrestling - 9

 

http://www.olympic.mn/posts/0b5d22de-c5b6-4050-84b5-2e5c83a49eef

 

  - 42

 

Athletics - 2

Badminton - 7

Boxing - 5

Canoeing -1

Cycling - 2

Equestrian - 3

Golf - 4

Judo - 1

Rowing - 2

Sailing - 3

Shooting - 6

Swimming - 2

Table Tennis -2

Taekwondo -2

 

https://www.nationthailand.com/life/40003184

Thailand is now 41 after the withdrawal of Thitisan Panmot of Boxing. 

Boxer Thitisan Panmot of Thailand, who qualified to compete in the men's 52 kg category has withdrawn from the Olympics after suffering a severe knee tear injury that needs a 5 month period of recovery.  This is a huge blow to Thailand's medal standings since Panmot is the country's few athletes who has a genuine chance of winning a medal this year. He qualified by winning silver at the Asian/Oceania qualifiers last year, upsetting Uzbek world champion Zoirov in the process. 

ช็อค! ธิติสรรค์ เอ็นไขว้เข่าฉีก "บิ๊กชาย" ยันถอนบู๊มวยโอลิมปิก (siamsport.co.th)

For those who can't read Thai, google translate might be able to help a bit. 

1. USA 2. China 3. France

The more I think about this poll, the more I see the chance than no competing country in the Olympic will win a medal in all of the combat sports. And I think that shows the intensity and level of competition in all of those sports. 

4 hours ago, Griff88 said:

Welp, we had qualified for Beach Volleyball in 1996 actually.

 

I'll take that as wishing us to qualify for the second time

My apologies for the factual mistake. Shows that I forgot some of the information I read on Wikipedia. I used to actually remember this kind of information that I read about past Olympics on Wikipedia.  

17 minutes ago, Griff88 said:

Men’s update:

 

The match for the quota will be contested by  and

 

SF result:

 

 2-0

 2-1

 

Congrats Indonesia for making it to the final and good luck on being the first Southeast Asian country in qualifying for any kind of volleyball discipline in the Olympics.

For myself and my rooting interests, I'm just disappointed in Thailand not being able to push themselves to grab an Olympic quota while being host of this qualification event. I just tired of Thailand being perpetual screw ups in Olympic qualifiers especially their women's indoor volleyball team.   

15 minutes ago, Monzanator said:

 

has to do it the hard way. in R16 and probably in QF

As someone who used to say "To be the man, You got to beat the man". Although Portugal in 2016 did it by doing the bare minimum. 

9 minutes ago, hckošice said:

I seriously can not understand how we won against Poland I do not get it

Well, playing against 10 men helps. Also, Poland has a tendency to choke at every major tournament except for Euro 2016. 

1 hour ago, phelps said:

 Gregorio Paltrinieri got mononucleosis...

 

most likely, he's going to miss the Olympics, but even if he pulls out a miracle and recovers in time, he will be chanceless in terms of medals...

 

we're ruined... 

I'm curious how he got mononucleosis in the first place. 

3 hours ago, Griff88 said:

I wondered where our judokas go 

I supposed the Indonesian Judo Association did not have any funding to send their judokas to qualification tournaments, which is a shame because they're pretty decent in the Southeast Asian level. 

1 hour ago, NearPup said:

Simone Manuel made the US team at the very last moment, winning the women's 50 free.

I hope Simone could be fit enough to win the gold medal. But if she can't, I won't fault her considering her health issues. Making the team after a quick turnaround from her health issues is an achievement in itself. 

Turkey has got to be the most disappointing teams of all time in the European Championship. Never seen a darkhorse flop this hard with a -7 goal difference and no points at all.   

Congrats to Ireland for the upset and Olympic quota. A much needed upset for a sport which has been mostly predictable so far in regards to Olympic qualifiers. 

As a Thai-American, I can think of a few that would be fun:

-Carlos Yulo of the Philippines winning a medal in Gymnastics, because Southeast Asia has never won a medal in the sport and to win it in a mainstream sport means a lot for the region (At least in my opinion).

-Tai Tzu Ying of Chinese Taipei winning the Women's Singles in Badminton. Some badminton observers would say Ratchanok Intanon is the best technical player in that division. But Tai ups her game to a higher level in comparison to her peers. She works hard on her technical game and physical fitness and it shows on the court. She embodies what it means to be a professional and rarely lets outside stuff like social media comments distract her unlike Ratchanok. She is basically an upgrade version of Ratchanok with less stamina and mental issues. For a neutral, Tai is very easy to root for. 

-Belgium winning men's field hockey. Because that sport badly needs a new country to win the Olympic gold medal.

-Naomi Osaka winning the Women's singles in tennis. A title win to cheer her up after her off-court fight with the media at large. 

-Ireland winning any medal with Rowing, Sailing or any other sport besides boxing because I have a soft sport for that country and they need to win medals in events they haven't won before. 

-Any medal won by someone from a Refugee Olympic Team because that would be historic and weird in the same time that a person without a country can win an Olympic medal. 

-Anyone who could beat China in Table Tennis because it's been 17 years since someone else won a gold medal in that sport.

3 minutes ago, Griff88 said:

So basically the former national coach Denny Trisjanto (who is also the husband of Lilies Handayani - the Seoul 1988 silver medalist), is the guy who trained Riau Ega and Choirunisa back when they're still junior athletes.

 

The issue started when the federation did a national coach assessment, where only top 3 coaches will train the athletes in the national team. Denny did not make the cut (ironically he was the one who really supported this coach assessment) and the two athletes refused to train with the new coach citing different coaching style. After some negotiations, the two parties kinda agreed to let Denny come back as long as his salary was not paid by the national federation. But the East Java Sport Commission and the East Java Archery did not allow their athletes to train with the national team. This prompted the national archery federation to dismiss the East Java Archery officials.

 

I didn't really know what happened after that, but they later held a national trials in April 2021 and decided that the top 3 athletes from each gender will be sent to this OQT in Paris. Riau Ega and Choirunisa earned their place from this trials. Meanwhile, Denny is still not allowed to train them but his wife is one of the new coach selected, so I guess there will be no more stupid infighting at least until Tokyo 2020.

Thank you for the reply. Seems like the issue is the mixture of some politics as well as the two star athletes not wanting to adapt to a new coach/coaching system. Glad that all of that is resolved. Let's hope nothing like this happens to your country's badminton team before the start of the Olympics. 

1 minute ago, Griff88 said:

And it is particularly surprising since Riau Ega and Diananda Choirunisa were removed from the national team due to a dispute with our federation. It was not until this April they were back training with the other team members

Thank you for the insight. I did know not about it since I can't read Bahasa. Do you mind saying what the dispute was about? If the feud did not end, I guess that it would affect Indonesia's chance of making to the Olympics as a team since both of them won a medal at the 2018 Asian Games.   

Congratulations to Indonesia for sticking up for Southeast Asia and qualifying in the men's team. Based on recent Olympic World qualification events in various sports, I thought the SEA countries were struggling, partially due to the pandemic affecting their training and preparations. Indonesia's qualification shows that there something to cheer about for countries in that region.  

6 minutes ago, Monzanator said:

Match will be resumed at 8:30 pm CET!

If UEFA forced this, I think it's too early to resume the match. Some empathy needs to be involved and let the players simmer down emotionally and play some time tomorrow. This is not a teammate who was a risk, but probably a friend who was endeared by many. But if the players willfully want to resume playing this soon, then more power to them.

1 minute ago, PHI2019 said:

There's also a chance for a gold medal from the new US Open champion Yuka Saso in women's golf. She's currently ranked ninth in the Olympic Golf ranking for women.

Yeah. My apologies. I forgot about that and it just happened this past weekend. Saso is definitely a darkhouse to win a gold in women's golf and she has proven her mettle in representing her country before by winning the gold medal in the 2018 Asian Games. 

2 hours ago, Vic Liu said:

My prediction is 100% correct.

64kg Deng Wei is not selected because of her injury and absence of the public trial ACh. It’s unlucky but unsurprised.

Since China is going to compete in the 55 kg, it looks like the Philippines will have to rely on Boxing or Carlos Yulo in Gymnastics to win their first ever gold medal.

I'm not a gymnastics expert but would like to take a stab at these predictions.

For the Men's Team, here's my pick: 1. China 2. Russia 3. Japan; I do think in a good day, Japan can push for second if either China and Russia gets too tense on the day of the finals. I think Japan has good enough depth to go higher than third place.

And here is my predictions for the women's team: 1. USA 2. Russia 3. China; It's going tot ask a giant collapse for the US to lost the gold medal. Too much depth and too much talent to fail.