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Now it's truly a 21st century war

This seems like the kind of desperation that we witnessed in Hungary in 1956 when Soviets started their invasion. No chance whatsoever against a much bigger force, trying to plea for some significant help that will never ever arrive. It seems already quite clear that the EU leaders are not even close to ban Russia from SWIFT, that's a step too far for everyone involved.

Apparently Russian troops are moving in without much resistance for now, or at least that's what the rumours suggest. If this is how it will continue, Ukraine will fall very quickly, similar to the 2008 war in Georgia. Hopefully the EU and the Ukrainian leadership had enough common sense to have an evacuation plan for them to the EU, they have to leave before the Russians arrive in Kyiv.

Yeah, and the issue is that the Western population is much likely to crack under worsening conditions than the Russian population. I mean, France will have an election soon, they might as well elect a pro-Russia president to make sure that the EU won't experience a lasting economical crisis. The European population might realize soon that their conformable life is more important to them than Ukraine.

We will find out now how important this cause is for Europe because we will suffer the most (besides Ukraine, ofc) if this will turn into a full scale economical war between the West and Russia where the trade complete stops. I mean, it's still winter, we need that gas, otherwise things will get quite ugly here. For example Hungary was already struggling before this war, this can be a tipping point.

I was wondering what the 2022 WOG medal table of "traditional sports and events" would look like, so I made up one with two rules: the disciplines must have been officially part of the program at least once before 1972 (50 years ago), and only those events count that have been in the program at least 7 times including Beijing (which means that any event added after Nagano doesn't count). This means that Snowboard, Freestyle Skiing, and Short Track are out. Curling and Skeleton make it in thanks to a few inclusions before 1972. Number of events that are in: Alpine Skiing (10) Biathlon (6) Bobsleigh (2) Cross-Country (8) Curling (2) Figure Skating (4) Ice Hockey (2) Luge (3) Nordic Combined (2) Skeleton (1) Ski Jumping (3) Speed Skating (10) And with these older events and traditional sports, this is how the medal table looks like: 1. 8-7-4 2. 8-3-9 3. 5-9-4 4. 5-4-1 5. 5-1-3 6. 5-1-2 7. 3-5-4 8. 3-4-2 9. 2-5-4 10. 2-3-2 11. 2-1-4 12. 2-0-1 13. 1-2-4 14. 1-1-0 15. 1-0-1 16. 0-3-5 17. 0-2-0 18. 0-1-1 19. 0-1-0 20. 0-0-1 20. 0-0-1 Unsurprisingly Europe dominates much more.

Missing nations that participated in recent contests: Obviously the big one is Brazil because they have never missed a TISC before. Indonesia also didn't miss any TISC editions since 2016.

Nah, the Baltic countries are NATO members, that would immediately start a World War. Finland and Sweden are the only countries that are in some danger, but I doubt Putin would ever do something as insane as a war in Northern Europe.

Hm, I got new messages yesterday and everything seemed to work just fine. Maybe @Sindo can figure out what's the issue.

I am using the YouTube icons on the "Participating nations" table in the first post as links to the videos. So you can click on to access any of the songs you want to watch again. This might be very obvious, but I still wanted to make it clear in case some of you don't know that you can set images as links on this forum.

Just like last year, not great in Hungary. I might have to send artists who already represented Hungary at a previous contest... COVID + the permanent Eurovision withdrawal is definitely hurting the Hungarian music scene.

The word map of TISC countries after the first day.

The Registration and Selection Window Is Open This post is for those users who were active jury members recently (last 2 years), just to make sure that you notice this new thread. You can register and select a song until March 13th. @konig@LDOG @KingOfTheRhinos @Laraja@LuizGuilherme@titicow@vinipereira @stefanbg @intoronto @Vic Liu @Damian @dcro @thepharoah @Finnator123 @Benolympique@EupenM @catgamer @Dragon@uk12points @Makedonas@Ted@Yannakis @Ashton @Griff88 @MHSN @Dnl @Pablita@SteveParker @Ruslan @Werloc @Glen @Braulio @Ionoutz24 @Wanderer @Skijumpingmaster @Vojthas @kungshamra71 @DaniSRB@NikolaB @justony @Cobi @amen09@tuniscof @Illya @dezbee2008@Olympian1010 @NaBUru38 @dophuquy If you know any new users who might be interested in joining the contest, feel free to mention them in this thread. EDIT: I am adding a few more users to this post based on forum activity: @Einarsen @Zodo @Herki @FireRun @Winterless @hmc16 @Ros @Trebron92 @Kramer

Goodbye Beijing - Hell.o Hungary Well, this is it. The competitions are over, the Olympic Games is ending once again. But don't be sad, we got another event to look forward to! The Totallympics Annual International Song Contest is here to cure your post-Olympic melancholy, so let's have some fun again, this time, for the first time ever, in Hungary! I am happy to announce that we have a host city! You must have heard of this beautiful Hungarian city if you follow handball or canoe sprint. It's the capital of Hungarian canoeing and has hosted the Canoe Sprint World Championships four times. It's the home of one of our strongest handball clubs, who have been participating in the Champions League for many years now. Yes, we are going south, next to the Hungarian-Serbian border, the host city of the 2022 Totallympics Annual International Song Contest is... Szeged Hm... we also need a venue for our event. It's a good thing that Szeged doesn't just have a long history in Hungarian sports but it's also the home of one of our long running cultural events, the Szeged Open-Air Festival, the largest outdoor theater in Hungary, which has been active since 1931. So the venue this time isn't an arena or a stadium, brace yourselves because we are going outside! (Let's hope that the weather will be kind to us.) The venue of the 2022 Totallympics Annual International Song Contest is... Dóm Square Now that we are done with the formalities, it's time for you to go through the selection process, to find the song that will represent your country in this year's contest. The selection window will be longer than two weeks this year because we won't start the voting before the closure of the Winter Paralympics. You will get plenty of time to decide, choose wisely.

Charter and Official Rulebook SECTION 1 - SONG CHOICE AND ELIGIBILITY: 1. (a) All songs must be ORIGINAL, NEW MATERIAL, released on or after January 1st, 2021. Exceptions will be made in the following circumstances: (i) A song released as a single no more than 6 months before the cut-off date may ONLY be chosen if that song was subsequently released on an album for the first time during the official period of eligibility. For example, a song which was released as a single on July 1st, 2020 may be chosen if that song was later included in an album released on January 1st, 2021 or thereafter. (ii) A song which is a copy of an original song may ONLY be chosen if both artists of the original song and the copy version are from the same nation AND if the original song was also released within the period of eligibility (on or after January 1st, 2021). 1. (b) All songs must be ORIGINAL to the nation for which they are competing. In other words, if a song is a copy or cover of an original song by an artist from another nation, then it is ONLY permitted to participate for the nation of the artist who produced the original version. If the artist of the cover version is from the same nation as the original artist, then the cover version must fulfill rule 1(a) in order to be eligible to participate. 1. (c) Songs that competed at Eurovision shall be excluded from competing at TAISC. However, songs which competed in a national final but were not put forward to represent their nation at Eurovision may be selected to compete at TAISC. SECTION 2 - ARTIST CHOICE AND ELIGIBILITY: 2. (a) Artists chosen to represent a nation must have been born in or be of the same nationality as the nation for which they are participating OR they must have more or equal association with that nation. 2. (b) In the case of bands, at least 50% of the band must be born in or be of the same nationality as the nation for which they are participating OR they should have more or equal association with that nation. 2. (c) For the purposes of the Totallympics International Song Contest, the same concept of nationality as that used by the IOC (International Olympic Committee) will be adopted. So, for example, artists from Scotland must represent Great Britain, artists from Faroe Islands must represent Denmark, etc. SECTION 3 - NATIONAL JURY VOTING: 3. (a) National juries may consist of a single jury member OR a multi-member jury made up of two or more users from that nation. 3. (b) National juries must send their votes in SECRET (via private message) to the host organising member(s) of the song contest as requested during the designated voting window. 3. (c) National juries must submit their song entry on the official TISC thread for that edition within the designated song entry selection window as designated by the host organiser(s). National juries who fail to submit their song within the required time frame are at risk of disqualification from the contest. 3. (d) Each jury member in a multi-member jury shall send their individual preferences in SECRET (via private message) to the host organising member(s). The votes from each of the members of the multi-member jury will be combined to form a single set of votes which will represent the overall voting preference of that national jury. In this way, the votes from each of the participating national juries, whether single or multi-member juries, will hold equal value or weight. 3. (e) National juries will use the following voting format: (i) Jury members will award points to their 12 favourite songs in ascending manner from points 1 through 12 (inclusive) with the first preference receiving a maximum score of 12 points, second preference receiving 11 points, third preference receiving 10 points, and so forth until the song of 12th preference which will receive a single point. See below scoring table for reference: 1st Preference 12 pts 2nd Preference 11 pts 3rd Preference 10 pts 4th Preference 9 pts 5th Preference 8 pts 6th Preference 7 pts 7th Preference 6 pts 8th Preference 5 pts 9th Preference 4 pts 10th Preference 3 pts 11th Preference 2 pts 12th Preference 1 pt (ii) In single member juries, these scores will subsequently represent the National Jury Vote of that nation. However, in multi-member juries, the votes of all the jury members from that nation will be combined to form a single set of points. The song which has received the most number of points from that national jury will be deemed to be the overall first preference choice of that jury and will receive the maximum score of 12 points; the song which has received the second highest number of points from that national jury will be deemed to be the overall second preference choice of that jury and will receive a score of 11 points, and so forth until the song which has received the 12th highest number of points which will receive a single point from that national jury. (iii) In the case of multi-member juries with 4 jury members or more, that jury can choose between the standard voting format (12-11-10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1) or the following alternative points format (18-15-12-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1). However, all jurors of that national jury must use the same format when submitting their votes. It is not permitted that some use the standard format and some others use the alternative format. As such, if a national jury wants to choose the alternative format over the standard format, that national jury must debate together in private message to come to a common consensus or majority vote on which to decide. The result of that discussion will then be posted on thread to inform all contestants and the organisers of their decision.All members of that jury will then submit their votes using the selected format. The host will then combine the votes of the jury members in the usual manner to form a single set of points as standard (12-11-10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1). (iv) National juries consisting of 2 members will be allowed the right to opt-in to an alternative voting process which guarantees that any song which received votes from both jury members will appear in the final top 12 combined list of that nation's final voting table. This will be achieved by removing the lowest ranked nation(s) in the combined top 12 which received points from just 1 jury member. The removed nation(s) will then become the highest ranking reserves. This opt-in method is available to national juries consisting of 2 members only. Any jury wishing to adopt this method shall inform the organisers of their decision to opt-in to the process by posting their intention to do so on the TISC thread prior to the opening of the voting window. The standard method of combining votes will still be the default method so if a 2-member national jury does not inform otherwise on thread, or if both jury members are in disagreement about which method to adopt, then the standard method will automatically be used to combine their votes. 3. (f) National juries must submit their votes by the official voting deadline as designated by the host organiser(s). National juries who fail to submit their votes within the required time frame will be disqualified from the contest. 3. (g) Any Nation which fails to participate in the voting process will be automatically disqualified from the contest. 3. (h) A random draw will take place in advance of the Grand Final to determine the order in which the National Juries will reveal their votes. This draw must be shown to be transparent and available to competing members should they wish to follow the result. The result of this draw must always be adhered to in order to preserve the random nature in which the voting will progress during the Grand Final. A National Jury may only request a "swap" in their designated voting position if, after the random draw, they have been assigned a voting slot outside of "reasonable hours". For the purpose of this contest, reasonable hours will be determined as anytime between 08:30-23:00 local time of that national jury. During the "swap" process, the host organiser will first look to make swaps between National Juries who are eligible for swaps after the random draw. SECTION 4 - NATIONAL JURY TIE-BREAK PROCEDURES: 4. (a) In the event of a tie in the combined votes of multi-member juries, the following set of rules outlines how the tie-break will be resolved: (i) The song which has received points from the greatest number of jury members will be deemed the winner of the tie. For example, take the following scenario.... Songs A, B, and C each received a combined score of 10 points after the results of each national jury member were combined and calculated. Song A received a single score of 10 points from one jury member, Song B received scores of 7 points and 3 points from two separate jury members and Song C received scores of 5 points, 3 points and 2 points from 3 separate jury members. All three songs received a total of 10 points, however, Song C is deemed to be the winner of the tie because a greater number of jury members voted for that song (3 members in this case). (ii) If the songs remain deadlocked after 4 (a) (i), the song which received the highest value score from an individual jury member will be deemed the winner of the tie. For example, take the following scenario.... Song A and Song B each received a combined score of 14 points after the results of each national jury member were combined and calculated. Song A received scores of 8+6 points while Song B received scores of 7+7 points. Song A will be deemed the winner of that tie since that song received a score of higher value (8 points) from one of the national jury members. (iii) If the songs remain deadlocked after 4 (a) (i) and (ii), jury members from that national jury who did not award any votes to any of the songs involved in the tie-break will be asked to break the tie. This tie-break rule can only ever be used to break ties in juries of 3 members or more and ONLY if there is a jury member who did not vote for any of the songs involved in the tie-break. (iv) After the procedures 4 (a) (i), (ii) and (iii) have been carried out, all outstanding ties within the votes of a national jury shall be resolved by carrying out a single random draw. The nature of this random draw shall be as follows: The names of each national jury member will be entered into a draw. Each name will be drawn. The first jury member drawn will be awarded the right to break the unresolved tie of highest value. The second jury member drawn will be awarded the right to break the unresolved tie of the second highest value. For example, take the following scenario.... there are two members of National Jury X. After the votes of User A and User B are combined and calculated the following situation arises: COUNTRY (Total points) -> Combined value Country A (24 points) -> 12 points Country B (21 points) -> 11 or 10 points Country C (21 points) -> 11 or 10 points Country D (18 points) -> 9 points Country E (16 points) -> 8 points Country F (13 points) -> 7 or 6 points Country G (13 points) -> 7 or 6 points Country H (10 points) -> 5 points Country I (7 points) -> 4 or 3 points County J (7 points) -> 4 or 3 points Country K (4 points) -> 2 points Country L (1 point) -> 1 or 0 points County M (1 point) -> 1 or 0 points Those highlighted in red text are those ties which could not be resolved by 4 (a) (i), (ii) or (iii). As a result of the random draw, User A was drawn first, meaning that user will be given the right to break the unresolved tie of the highest value (the tie between Country B and C for 11 or 10 points). User B was drawn second meaning that user will be given the right to break the unresolved tie of the second highest value (the tie between Country F and G for 7 or 6 points). The order will then be reversed so that User B will be given the right to break the unresolved tie of the third highest value (the tie between Country I and J for 4 or 3 points). User A will finally be given the right to break the unresolved tie of the fourth highest value (the tie between Country L and M for 1 or 0 points). This procedure to break the unresolved ties will be used for national juries of any number with the first user drawn being given the right to break the unresolved tie of the highest value, the second user drawn being given the right to break the unresolved tie of the second highest value, third user the third highest tie, etc. reversing the order if need be when the order has completed one cycle. However, it should be noted that unresolved tie-breaks which require random draws will occur mostly in two-member juries since national juries with 3 or more members will likely resolve all ties through 4 (a) (i), (ii) or (iii). SECTION 5 - OVERALL SCOREBOARD TIE-BREAK PROCEDURES: 5. (a) In the event of a tie in the overall scoreboard between two or more nations, the following set of rules outlines how the tie-break will be resolved: (i) The nation which has received points from the greatest number of National Juries will be deemed the winner of the tie. (ii) If there is still a tie after 5 (a) (i), the nation which has received the greatest number of 12 points will be deemed the winner of the tie. (iii) If there is still a tie after 5 (a) (i), (ii), the nation which has received the greatest number of 11 points will be deemed the winner of the tie. If the tie remains deadlocked, the process will continue by counting the number of 10 points each nation received, 9 points, 8 points, and so on until the tie-break can be resolved. 5. (b) If there is still a tie in the overall scoreboard between two or more nations after 5 (a) (i), (ii) and (iii) have been implemented, those nations shall be deemed to have tied for position in the overall scoreboard. SECTION 6 - TEAM CHALLENGE FORMAT AND RULES: 6. (a) Each edition of the Totallympics International Song Contest will feature a Team Challenge competition. The main purpose of this team element is to further enhance the community spirit that is an integral feature of TISC events and to provide another means of encouraging users to interact with one another. 6. (b) The TISC Team Challenge event may vary in format from one contest to the next. The nature of the format will be dependent on the number of participating nations. 6. (c) Nations will be assigned to their team by random draw. 6. (d) The ideal format is that there will be a minimum of 8 teams, each made up of 4 nations. However, if that is not possible, the teams will be formed from one of the following formats (listed in order of preference): (i) teams of 3 nations (ii) teams of 5 nations (iii) if it's not possible for each team to have the same number of nations, a special provision will be introduced (for example: power plays). 6. (e) It is recommended that the teams shall be named after various cities/regions of the host country and combined with a nickname. For example, a contest in Brazil might feature teams called the Brasilia Capitals and Manaus Amazons. SECTION 7 - ELIGIBILITY, CONDUCT AND RESPONSIBILITY OF PARTICIPANTS: 7. (a) Any first time participant must have been registered on the forum at least 2 months before they take part in the contest. The date used to calculate the 2 months rule will be 2 months prior to the National Selection deadline. A first time participant may be allowed special dispensation to participate in TISC, even if they do not fulfill the 2-month rule criteria. However, in such circumstances, that user must have shown a high level of activity in the forum in terms of posts and presence. This special dispensation will be awarded on the agreement of Totallympics admin, namely Sindo, who will conduct all necessary verification checks and will be given final approval by the TISC management team, namely OlympicIRL and the host of that TISC edition. These rules are not designed to exclude, only to ensure TISC retains a distinct character, built upon a unique community atmosphere created by users of the forum. 7. (b) Participating users shall be respectful of the song choice of all nations once they fulfill all of the necessary eligibility requirements. 7. (c) Participating users must not reveal or give any indication as to their preferences or voting choices at any stage before the official announcement of the votes during the Grand Final. 7. (d) Participating users must not discuss private voting procedures with other members so as to ensure fairness is always in play and to ensure any suspense during the Grand Final is kept intact. 7. (e) Participating users must be respectful when posting and discussing with other members on the Totallympics International Song Contest Thread. 7. (f) If foul play is detected with respect to 7 (a), (b), (c), (d) or (e) at any stage before, during or after the contest, the TISC organising committee reserves the right to place the participation or result of that nation under review. SECTION 8 - HOSTING DUTIES, RESPONSIBILITIES AND ORGANISATIONAL TIMEFRAME: 8. (a) The host organisation should adhere to the follow basic schedule upon organising the contest: There shall be 2 weeks allocated for registration and national selection until the deadline to submit an entry. There shall be 2 weeks allocated for voting (of which a maximum of 4 days will be allocated to the host jury to submit their votes to a designated neutral third party). There shall be a maximum of 2 weeks allocated after the voting window closes to allow the hosts time to organise the Grand Final. This 6 week time-frame was agreed upon during a public vote but in special circumstances, exceptions will be considered. 8. (b) The host organiser(s) must submit their votes in advance of receiving votes from other National Juries by private message. The votes of the host(s) should be sent by private message to a neutral third party after the national selection window has passed and before the national jury voting phase begins. 8. (c) The host organiser(s) must abide by the same rules that govern the participation of users in the Totallympics International Song Contest as outlined in Section 6. SECTION 9 - FUTURE HOSTING RIGHTS: 9. (a) Upon completion of the relevant song contest, the winning nation will automatically be awarded the rights to host the subsequent Totallympics International Song Contest 1 year later. 9. (b) If the winning nation wishes to decline the hosting duties, the runner-up of that edition will then be awarded the opportunity to accept or decline the hosting rights. If the runner-up also declines the hosting duties, the 3rd placed nation of that edition will have the opportunity to accept or decline the hosting rights. 9. (c) In the event that the hosting rights are declined by the top 3 ranked nations at the previous edition of the relevant TISC, an open bid process will be conducted in order to award the hosting rights. This process will be open to all candidates, first-time hosts as well as previous hosts. A random draw will take place with each candidate being awarded a number of tickets in the draw. The more tickets a candidate has entered, the better their chance of being selected as host. Here is the process for how the tickets will be distributed: Each candidate automatically awarded 1 ticket each in the draw. However, additional tickets awarded as follows - did not host in the previous 5 editions (+1 additional ticket) - did not host in the previous 10 editions (+1 additional ticket) - did not host previously (+2 additional tickets) - took part in the previous bidding process (+1 additional ticket). For first-time hosts, they will add an additional ticket for each edition they are unsuccessful for in bidding, thus increasing their chance slightly with each unsuccessful bid. This increase will only be available for first-time hosts. Additionally, if a first-time host missed 2 consecutive bidding campaigns, then their tickets no longer carry forward and they lose those additional tickets.

Totallympics Annual International Song Contest 2022 Totallympics Forum - 20 February 2022 - 7 May 2022 Official Schedule Until Saturday, March 26th: Central European Time (GMT +1) From Sunday,March 27th: Central European Summer Time (GMT +2) Sunday, February 20th 10:00 National Jury Registration and Entries Selection Window Open Sunday, April 10th 23:59 National Jury Registration and Entries Selection Window Closed Monday, April 11th 00:00 Host Jury Voting Window Open Wednesday, April 13th 11:59 Host Jury Voting Window Closed 12:00 National Jury Voting Window Open Saturday, April 23th 23:59 National Jury Voting Window Closed / Festival of Music Begins Tuesday, April 26th 19:00 Voting Order Draw / Team Allocation Draw Friday, May 6th 20:00 Opening Ceremony Saturday, May 7th 09:30 Totallympics Annual International Song Contest 2022 Grand Final 22:30 Closing Ceremony The Playlist Participating Nations Nation Jury Member(s) Artist(s) Song Video Vote Argentina @konig Babasónicos La Izquierda de la Noche Brazil @titicow Marília Mendonça Troca de Calçada Bulgaria @Federer91 DARA Thunder Canada @intoronto The Weeknd Take My Breath China @Vic Liu Zhou Shen Silver Linings Colombia @Damian Carlos Vives, Camilo Baloncito Viejo Croatia @dcro Jonathan Falling Czech Republic @Hipooo GIUDI Jezinky Denmark @Agger @Wumo Tachys When The World Wakes Up Finland @Finnator123 Haloo Helsinki! Piilotan mun kyyneleet France @Benolympique@Bohemia Terrenoire L'infini Germany @catgamer Zoe Wees Girls Like Us Great Britain @Cinnamon Bun@Quasit Ed Sheeran Shivers Greece @maestro@Makedonas@Yannakis Anastasia Amarties Hungary @Vektor Carson Coma Pók India @Fly_like_a_don Benjamin Sum Chhingmit in biahthu kan hlan Indonesia @Griff88 GANGGA Forever Ireland @OlympicIRL Gavin James Greatest Hits Israel @Dnl Ran Danker Beyt Meshuga'im Italy @Henry_Leon@Pablita@SteveParker Colapesce & Dimartino Musica leggerissima Kazakhstan @Ruslan Imanbek, Wiz Khalifa, KDDK feat KIDDO Ordinary Life Lithuania @Werloc Gebrasy Where'd You Wanna Go? Malta @Glen Emma Muscat Sangria Mexico @mrv86 Camilo Séptimo ft. Ximena Sariñana Contracorriente Moldova @Ionoutz24 The Motans În Golul Tău Netherlands @heywoodu Chef'Special Afraid Of The Dark New Zealand @Wanderer Lorde Hua Pirau Poland @rybak Kwiat Jabłoni ft. Julia Pietrucha Drogi proste Portugal @kungshamra71 David Carreira x Seleção Vamos com Tudo Romania @IoNuTzZ EMILIA x FLORIN SALAM x COSTI TURBULENCE Serbia @NikolaB Sara Jo Muškarčina Slovakia @hckošice Smola a Hrušky Všetci Za Jedného Slovenia @justony LUMA All In Spain @Cobi Tanxugueiras TERRA Sweden @Belle Swedish House Mafia & The Weeknd Moth To A Flame Tunisia @amen09 Elyanna & Balti Ghareeb Alay Turkey @Memo Buray Alaz Alaz Ukraine @Illya Go_A Весело/Veselo United States @dezbee2008@Olympian1010 Still Woozy, Remi Wolf Pool Total Nations 39 Total Jury Members 47 39 Songs 39 Voted Festival of Music Nation User Artist(s) Song Video Belgium @Werloc Selah Sue Pills Brunei @rybak Azim Ariffin Saleha & Fatimah Cuba @Yannakis Camila Cabello Don't Go Yet Cyprus @rybak Ivi Adamou Agoraki Mou Ecuador @hckošice Jose Victoria Lolabúm Nikki Mackliff Vamos Ecuador "TRI" Penitas Si Hubiera Sabido Estonia @Werloc Púr Múdd & Shira Golden Shores Iceland @kungshamra71 Ragnar Ægir I'm At Home Japan @kungshamra71 YOASOBI Kaibutsu Latvia @Cinnamon Bun Dakota Debesis Virs Manām Mājām Liechtenstein @dcro NITRO NITRA ft. Al Walser Cold Cold Soul Niger @Wumo Mdou Moctar Afrique Victime Nigeria @Fly_like_a_don Ada Ehi ft. Buchi Congratulations North Macedonia @Cinnamon Bun Shkumbin Ismaili Mbaje fjalën Peru @Wumo Sofia Kourtesis La Perla Puerto Rico @Cobi Marc Anthony Pa'lla Voy South Korea @dcro BTS Butter Uruguay @konig El Cuarteto de Nos La Ciudad Sin Alma Venezuela @Cobi Carlos Baute (ft. Chenoa) El chisme Official Voting Order Voting Order Voting Time Host Local Session 1 (09:30-11:18) 1 New Zealand 09:30 19:30 2 Tunisia 09:42 08:42 3 Poland 09:54 09:54 4 Bulgaria 10:06 11:06 5 Spain 10:18 10:18 6 India 10:30 14:00 7 Colombia 10:42 03:42 8 Germany 10:54 10:54 9 Hungary 11:06 11:06 Break (11:18-12:30) Session 2 (12:30-14:30) 10 Croatia 12:30 12:30 11 Sweden 12:42 12:42 12 Slovenia 12:54 12:54 13 Indonesia 13:06 18:06 14 Greece 13:18 14:18 15 Netherlands 13:30 13:30 16 Canada 13:42 07:42 17 Lithuania 13:54 14:54 18 Argentina 14:06 09:06 19 Italy 14:18 14:18 Break (14:30-17:30) Session 3 (17:30-19:30) 20 Serbia 17:30 17:30 21 Finland 17:42 18:42 22 Mexico 17:54 10:54 23 Ireland 18:06 17:06 24 Kazakhstan 18:18 22:18 25 Portugal 18:30 17:30 26 China 18:42 00:42 27 Malta 18:54 18:54 28 Brazil 19:06 14:06 29 United States 19:18 13:18 Break (19:30-20:00) Session 4 (20:00-22:00) 30 Great Britain 20:00 19:00 31 Czech Republic 20:12 20:12 32 France 20:24 20:24 33 Ukraine 20:36 21:36 34 Turkey 20:48 21:48 35 Moldova 21:00 22:00 36 Romania 21:12 22:12 37 Denmark 21:24 21:24 38 Israel 21:36 22:36 39 Slovakia 21:48 21:48 Team Challenge Budapest Capitals Debrecen Flowers 1 New Zealand 10 Croatia 2 Tunisia 11 Sweden 20 Serbia 30 Great Britain 21 Finland 31 Czech Republic Miskolc Cavers Pécs Scholars 3 Poland 12 Slovenia 4 Bulgaria 13 Indonesia 22 Mexico 32 France 23 Ireland 33 Ukraine Győr Rivers Kecskemét Goats 5 Spain 14 Greece 6 India 15 Netherlands 24 Kazakhstan 34 Turkey 25 Portugal 35 Moldova Fehérvár Saints Szombathely Romans 7 Colombia 16 Canada 8 Germany 17 Lithuania 26 China 36 Romania 27 Malta 37 Denmark Tatabánya Falcons Eger Heroes 9 Hungary 18 Argentina 19 Italy 29 United States 28 Brazil 38 Israel 39 Slovakia

Well, it certainly won't be an easy gold for now.

So it's not 30km. It's 28.4km. Shorter than the skiathlon.

I think having the least prestigious event last makes a lot of sense for this sport because... well, you saw what happened today and what might happen tomorrow. We either have the team event scheduled for the last weekend, or we shouldn't have any alpine skiing for the last two days. It's too dangerous, you always need a couple of days for a potential delay because the Games has to end on Day 16, no matter what.

They simply can't have a 50k race today if they have to start with a one hour delay. The race would be much longer than usual due to the conditions, so if you add the one hour delay, the race would finish well beyond anything we have seen for long distance cross-country events at these Games, especially for the weaker athletes, who might as well DNF already just to save the energy.

The conditions must be beyond terrible, they wouldn't shorten the distance if they had any other choice.

I am planning to watch the last few "early morning" finals (women's curling, alpine skiing team, bobsleigh) after the women's 30km. Eurosport will totally spoil all those finals during their cross-country broadcast with those "medal alerts", right?

lol what is this match

Well, this isn't as historic as the predicted 20+ gold medals would have been, but it's still very impressive.

On another note, I wouldn't be surprised if the Hungarian pair is the next victim of a false positive PCR test. Magyar had negative tests up until this point, he doesn't have any symptoms, and the rest of team had negative tests. He will probably be cleared soon with some negative tests, but that will be too late for the competition. And that's the end of that, I doubt we will ever get a chance to see a Hungarian pair at the Games again... We waited for this for 66 years.