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I read who won both the singles events this morning so I'm not gonna spoil the women's winner

It's not about Ledecky's golds but her name being the same as the Czech snowboarder. Missy Franklin got all the media attention despite flaming out very fast.

Well, Americans don't care about anything non-American in sports not named Federer or Bolt Seems like we made the obvious link at the same time

Of course you did. Katie Ledecky is American last time I checked so I thought you Americans would be familiar with the spelling. Obviously I was wrong.

Despite all of that the Americans still can't spell her name right

13th place is probably the worst result for the German women's relay? Talk about going down the drain for the former powerhouse. Herrmann's shooting sucks, Preuss is nowhere and Hinz will never make that elite step. Hildebrand is almost too old fot this shit. Tomasz Sikora said Germany finished 13th once in the now defunct mixed relay back in 1996/97.

Well, can we officially call Klaasen a pervert? Then again, Holland is a pretty liberal country so I don't get what's the fuzz about?

Second sprint win for Dorothea Wierer! @hckosice implied Fialkova's injury was kinda serious but guess it wasn't? Maybe it's time to return to the old avatar?

Obviously First Past the Post system favors a two party system in first place yet I've been critical enough of liberal democracy that some people won't trust my word

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The icing on the cake - Bishop Auckland in County Durham which has never had a Tory MP in 134 years just voted one by 8,000 majority! Margaret Thatcher is rolling in her grave

I'm a cynical realist. Politicians always say what people want to hear aka they always lie one way or another, period. I'm not gonna pretend I buy their crap. You say Trump and Johnson are liars, fine, but Crooked Hilary and Corbyn are equal liars too. Politics is always about half-truths and imperfect lies. Idealism is dead and buried. Israel is more hung than UK. I guess they're up for a third general election within the last 12 months soon and Netanyahu has rallied the radical troops after his "West Bank will be partially annexed" comments. The guy is pretty desperate and it offers zero chance of a stable political situation As for "your" generation going ultra liberal, well, just because you win the social media battle, it doesn't mean you win the war. And the younger generations have always struggled to put up numbers when it comes to actual votes. It's the old people and blue collar workers that are still majority of any society in the world.

Here's the thing, political battles are no longer won by ideology. That's so 19th century of the pre-internet world. Right now everyone has easy access to news and can see these political schmucks out on daily basis. Nobody truly pays attention to what these people have to say. Attention span is limited. And surprise, surprise, people vote for the strongest personality most of the time. Boris Johnson might be a clown but he wins the personality contest over wooden sticks like May or Corbyn hand over first, period. Likewise Trump, he's a narcisstic clown but he smokes Sanders and Biden out of the water. I told ya, Dems need a second coming of JFK, Clinton or Obama to beat this guy. Biden and Sanders are dead ducks in the race IMO.

Labour still lost 6 seats - all gained by Tory. Wrexham is lost for Labour for the first time since 1935 - another big time sweep.

Hey, it's your liberal democracy you all hail as the best system in the world The democracy has supported the biggest clown tandem in the world which probably means more useless analysis will come out of this while the sociallists and liberals of this world will be wondering how on Earth people voted for Trump & Johnson in such convincing fashion

People simply dislike Corbyn plain and simple. Not to mention they're tired of the Brexit mess. And this idiot wanted to drag on with the shitshow with another referendum. It's safe to say the society told him to GTFO. It's like foreshadowing Bernie Sanders in the US. Corbyn got slaughtered by Johnson tonight, old fool Sanders would get slaughtered by Trump in the USA but hey, Joe Biden probably steps in and saves Dems from such a disaster (while also losing in a more honorable way IMO).

This election basically proves - not for the first time - people actually want a strong leadership & personality regardless of how huge the negative dead weight is there (which leans into my authoritarianism beliefs). Boris Johnson is the UK version of Donald Trump, no question about it. Corbyn was sitting on the Brexit fence for almost three years and then we he finally made his mind up, he came up with a second Brexit vote. Donk! Horrible idea. Theresa May had a personality of a wooden stick, she fell into a minority government trap while this clown Johnson got Tory their biggest win since Thatcher's heyday.

The Kingdom is only united by name these days tbh. It's rather obvious SNP will force the second independence vote sooner rather than later IMO.

It's safe to say the full-blown sociallist way for Labour is done. Good riddance. Says a lot when the most popular Labour leader in recent times (Tony Blair) wasn't even a sociallist to begin with Apparently there will be more nationalists than unionists from Ulster as well (first time ever?). DUP is getting their butts kicked

Some seats held by Labour since the proverbial forever have been gained by Tories. Leigh (since 1922), Stoke-on-Trent (since 1950) and Blyth Valley (since 1950). Neither of these constituencies have ever voted Tory! The icing on the cake would be Labour losing majority of seats in the North East region. They hold 25/29 seats there but it's gonna be a crushing loss if a region so demolished by Thatcher's decisions will suddenly turn to Tory after all those years

Corbyn has been an absolute fraud. Sitting on the Brexit fence just blew up in his face big time. If Boris frickin Johnson leads Tory to their biggest win in 30 years and Labour has its worse result since 1935 (like reported by the BBC) then Corbyn should be shot to the moon first thing in the morning

The question is why would you spend time in finding holes in your faith to begin with? People usually have better things to do especially when you include job, family and maybe mortgage payments in America. I'm a Christian and obviously I'm familiar with the centuries-old struggle for power between the Church (not only Catholic but every religion there is including Judaism, Islam etc.), politicans and journalists. I know the rules of the game and nobody has changed it. Hell, you can include buddhism, Kaballah and all that spiritual shit which is no different than any of the standard religions. So even agnostics and atheists are people of faith. It's the common drug, I despise communism and socialism but Marx was right about "opium of the people". Even agnostics & atheists need something like this, they may not call it religion but it's something out there.

That's the modern day paradox, atheists and agnostics seem to be more interested in the Pope or movies about religion or the Pope than Christians. I'm a Christian but I don't watch any religious movies and wouldn't waste 5 seconds on a TV series about the Pope. Religion in movies is flat out boring and a waste of my time Reminds me from another forum when most threads about certain tennis players were filled by comments from the player's haters rather than fans. Religion suffers from the same paradox, the majority of people who want to talk about religion actually doesn't believe in God in first place

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The modern version of the Cold War you call pointless? How come?