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[OFF TOPIC] Politics Thread


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Imagine if someone spits on a jew in Germany : all tv channels will talk about it during 6 months , all ministers will apologize everyday in the parliament , milliins $ of compensation and finally  they will send  miss germany to spend a night with Satanyahu 

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13 hours ago, heywoodu said:

:BRU Hassanal Bolkiah laughs at those rookies. When Lukashenko rose to power, he was already head of state for a good 27 years and he still is :d 

In Brunei, it's an absolute ruler, but not in Cameroon and Equatorial Guinea. The longest-ruling non-absolute rulers are in Guinea and Cameroon: both since 1982. Lukashenko isn't an absolute ruler either :P

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There is no chance they'll be part of a coalition (which by itself is already going to be a massive nightmare to form), but my vote did indeed go to Volt @Gianlu33:p

 

Not to their number one though, he has the charisma of a wet piece of cardboard, but at least to the party.

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In UK, yet another victim.

This time stabbing in the broad daylight.

Perpetrator - well, well... Illegal alien.

I suppose that mentioning his ethnicity in the UK would lead to prison.

And that is the left and "liberal" politics in a nutshell.

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51 minutes ago, ChandlerMne said:

In UK, yet another victim.

This time stabbing in the broad daylight.

Perpetrator - well, well... Illegal alien.

I suppose that mentioning his ethnicity in the UK would lead to prison.

And that is the left and "liberal" politics in a nutshell.

I found out he is Afghan on... the BBC. So much for that I guess.

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2 minutes ago, NearPup said:

I found out he is Afghan on... the BBC. So much for that I guess.

No, doesnt mean a thing. 

Dozens of people were arrested for writting comments about immigrants.

And no, they werent hateful, at least not every one. I read many of them.

So, commenting can jail you. In the 21st century. In once democratic UK.

Even BBC cant lie about this. And I am sure they would like to but tragedy was taken on cammera, was published on X, IG very early on.

 

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7 hours ago, copravolley said:

The Netherlands is supposedly very politically divided? Is that true?

Absolutely :p 

 

Polling stations close in around an hour, so until then of course there will be no exit polls and such, but after last night it mostly seems to be between two parties: Geert Wilders' PVV (far-right) and Rob Jetten's D66 (centrist). It is very unlikely the PVV will have a massive win as they did two years ago, since even when he was part of the government, Wilders kept torpedoeing the government and even go against his own ministers. Right now, it is getting more and more clear for people (finally) that a vote for Wilders is a vote for an unbelievably unstable government, if one can even be formed. A lot of parties have already said they will not form a coalition with the PVV, both because of their far-right stances and because forming a coalition with him simply means you are going to have another political crisis - most likely instigated by Wilders being in opposition to his own coalition.

 

D66 seems to have the momentum in the last few days. Then there's the rather far-left GL-PvdA team-up, two left parties that joined forces last time and are lead by the rather unpopular Frans Timmermans. They do have an outside shot at being the biggest today though, definitely the main option for those on the left. More on the right side is the VVD, which has been in every coalition since the dawn of time. Everyone always complains about them, yet apparently always enough people vote on them. Then there's the more central CDA, the Christian Democrats, the party of Mark Rutte's predecessor Jan-Peter Balkenende. Totally collapsed last time around due to one guy (Pieter Omtzigt) leaving and starting his own party, gaining a ton of seats. Omtzigt has since already left politics and his party (NSC) has now collapsed, they might get 1 seat today, who knows, most of it goes back to CDA and they too have an outside shot at winning.

 

Personally I expect something like this:

 

D66

PVV shortly behind it or maybe even equal

GL-PvdA a few seats behind them

VVD/CDA fighting for 4th

JA21 (far-right party of a guy who switches party on a near-weekly basis) being an almost certain 6th place.

 

Then there's some stuff like the populist farmer's party (BBB) which was super big for a short moment and was part of the 4-party coalition drama that led to us having elections now. The super strict Christians of SGP (oldest party in the country I believe, always good for 3 seats, or sometimes 2 or 4, since their fanbase is never-changing - fun fact, their leader comes from a tiny town that's part of my also fairly small municipality). The less strict Christians of the Christen-Unie, Volt and a few others.

 

To give a sense of the sheer number of options: yesterday were the final debates. First there was a debate with the small parties, 6 in total. Then came the debate with the big parties, 9 of them. That's 15 parties who are all in some way likely to get at least 1 seat. Not even counting the 10+ who participate without a real chance for that :p 

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