Weightlifting 2018 Discussion Thread

[Wumo 3,002]

5 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

The world champs are the only results in the entire year? Something is wrong on IWF's website

https://www.iwf.net/new_bw/results_by_events/?event_type=all&event_age=all&event_nation=all&x=11&y=7

 

No other results are important.

Only results from the legendary WCH in Ashgabat count.

Spoiler

 

[MHSN 3,619]

Start list for Qatar Cup which started today

https://www.iwf.net/wp-content/uploads/downloads/2018/12/Start_book_DOHA.pdf

 

the most interesting name is Ilya Ilyin ! I wonder if he will really lift anything or it will be another "no mark" for him. he needs 6 results for the qualification. 4 of them will be counted. so he has one more "no mark" to give his entry is very low for 109kg but you never know

[heywoodu 15,141]

8 minutes ago, MHSN said:

Start list for Qatar Cup which started today

https://www.iwf.net/wp-content/uploads/downloads/2018/12/Start_book_DOHA.pdf

 

the most interesting name is Ilya Ilyin ! I wonder if he will really lift anything or it will be another "no mark" for him. he needs 6 results for the qualification. 4 of them will be counted. so he has one more "no mark" to give his entry is very low for 109kg but you never know

How can 'no mark' count the same for result?

 

I thought the results counting also needed to have some meaning (like, good results means higher ranking)  

[MHSN 3,619]

30 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

How can 'no mark' count the same for result?

 

I thought the results counting also needed to have some meaning (like, good results means higher ranking)  

 

well for IWF, if you participate in weight-in which is 2 hours before the competition you will be listed in results book and that will be counted as a result. that's what exactly Ilyin did in the World Championships.

 

Olympic qualification rules say you need 6 results in these 18 months (at least one in each 6 months period) and 4 best results will be counted. so he can afford having two "no marks"

btw for IWF, participating in weight-in and then not showing up is equal to participating but bombing out which happens a lot.

[JoshMartini007 2,537]

I just checked the schedule and there is no Oceania Championships during the first set, this could make things hard for those nations if they want to qualify normally. Only Australia, New Zealand and Samoa sent athletes to the World Championships. Maybe they could make the Pacific Islands Email Tournament an eligible tournament. It doesn't help that the World Cup in China is being held at the same time. At best they could head to the Las Vegas Open during the Youth World Championships.

 

If not, Samoa stands to benefit from this while all the other nations will fight for likely 1 male and 1 female tripartite spot.

 

Also would the Oceania Championship, Commonwealth Championship and Pacific Games count as three results, despite being held at the same time? I know in 2017 they used the same lifts in both the Oceania and Commonwealth Championships.

[AlFHg 330]

For those interested, the live streaming of Qatar Cup:

 

@heywooduI think you are interested, if I remember well

 

[MHSN 3,619]

Another "no mark " for Ilyin I wonder if he knows he can't do that anymore. this is funny he was 101.76 for the World Champs not long ago. today he weighted 108.30 ! well I think he is up to something . he is  really the biggest cheater ever.

 

no WR in this Qatar Cup but some results in women's competition were so close to the WR. the only notable result in men's comeptition was "Hassouna Fares" (who? ) I wonder if he is the same guy as "Fares Ibrahim Hassouna El-Bakh" or maybe a brother/cousin of him ?!

[thepharoah 2,405]

7 minutes ago, MHSN said:

Another "no mark " for Ilyin I wonder if he knows he can't do that anymore. this is funny he was 101.76 for the World Champs not long ago. today he weighted 108.30 ! well I think he is up to something . he is  really the biggest cheater ever.

 

no WR in this Qatar Cup but some results in women's competition were so close to the WR. the only notable result in men's comeptition was "Hassouna Fares" (who? ) I wonder if he is the same guy as "Fares Ibrahim Hassouna El-Bakh" or maybe a brother/cousin of him ?!

He's the same guy from Qatar , they don't have any other good lifters  

[MHSN 3,619]

1 minute ago, thepharoah said:

He's the same guy from Qatar , they don't have any other good lifters  

 

That makes sense his result is too good for someone new. but how come they just put two parts of his name to create a new name ? and also changed his birthdate.

https://www.iwf.net/new_bw/athletes_newbw/?athlete=fares-hassouna-1998-01-01&id=13946

https://www.iwf.net/new_bw/athletes_newbw/?athlete=elbakh-fares-ibrahim-e.-h.-1998-06-04&id=13315

[thepharoah 2,405]

3 hours ago, MHSN said:

 

That makes sense his result is too good for someone new. but how come they just put two parts of his name to create a new name ? and also changed his birthdate.

https://www.iwf.net/new_bw/athletes_newbw/?athlete=fares-hassouna-1998-01-01&id=13946

https://www.iwf.net/new_bw/athletes_newbw/?athlete=elbakh-fares-ibrahim-e.-h.-1998-06-04&id=13315

I think it's just an error by IWF site , his name is fares hassouna actually , elbakh is his last name which's not used as a second name in Arabic countries  and i'm 100 % sure that he's the same guy i know him very well and many wrightlifting pages here in Egypt cover his news , he can be considered half Qatari and half Egyptian  His coach is his father and he's a former Egyptian lifter btw