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Speed Skating ISU World Cup 2017 - 2018


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11 hours ago, Nate River said:

I mean, it depends which team shows up. The Netherlands pursuit team has looked like amateurs in two of the three events.

 

FWIW I think Koen Verweij is a heavy favorite since Yuskov and Kulizhnikov probably won't be allowed to compete (even though Yuskov's doping ban was kinda BS).

There may be other problems for Yuskov...

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6 hours ago, heywoodu said:

I wouldn't say Bloemen is a clear favourite by the way, he's not exactly known to be one who peaks under pressure so far :p 

Ya, I agree. I’ll believe he can beat Kramer in a championship when I see it.

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7 hours ago, heywoodu said:

I wouldn't say Bloemen is a clear favourite by the way, he's not exactly known to be one who peaks under pressure so far :p 

I think he also thrives on fast ice, such as Calgary and SLC, whereas Sven is usually better on the sea-level rinks.

 

The men's 5.000m can be really exciting, if Sven manages to qualify. One off-day at the end of December and he might not be in.

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18 hours ago, Nate River said:

If Wikipedia is to be believed, Pedro Causil is the first South American to ever qualify for the Olympics in speed skating, while this will be the first Olympics since 1936 (and the first since becoming independent from the Soviet Union) where Estonia competes in Speed Skating.

Olympic speed skaters from North/South America and Caribbean = 298

USA and Canada = 297  British Virgin Islands = 1

Every other country = 0

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ISU announced the qualification standings for speed skating, baring any reallocation or issues with the 180 athlete quota. Keep in mind most countries won't use their maximum quota due to athletes competing in multiple events.

 

The Netherlands is the only country with the maximum number of quotas in every event. Canada also has the maximum number of athlete quota.

 

Men

  500m 1000m 1500m 5000m 10000m TP MS MAX
:AUS Australia 1 1           2
:AUT Austria             1 1
:BLR Belarus 1 1           2
:BEL Belgium     1 1     1 3
:CAN Canada 3 3 3 1 2 X 1 10
:CHN China 2             2
:COL Colombia 1 1           2
:DEN Denmark             2 2
:EST Estonia   1           1
:FIN Finland 2 1           3
:FRA France     1 1     1 3
:GER Germany 1 2 1 2 2     8
:HUN Hungary   1 1         2
:ITA Italy 1 1 2 3 2 X 1 10
:JPN Japan 3 3 3 2   X 2 8
:KAZ Kazakhstan 2 3 2         7
:LAT Latvia   1 1 1     1 4
:NED Netherlands 3 3 3 3 2 X 2 10
:NZL New Zealand     2 1 1 X 2 6
:NOR Norway 3 2 3 3 1 X 2 10
:POL Poland 3 3 3       1 8
Olympic Athletes from Russia 3 3 3 3 1   2 8
:KOR South Korea 3 3 2 1 1 X 2 10
:SWE Sweden     1 1       2
:SUI Switzerland     1 1     1 3
:TPE Taiwan 1             1
:USA United States 3 3 3     X 2 8

 

Women

  500m 1000m 1500m 3000m 5000m TP MS MAX
:AUT Austria 1 1 1       1 4
:BLR Belarus     1 1 1   1 4
:BEL Belgium     1         1
:CAN Canada 3 3 3 3 2 X 2 10
:CHN China 3 3 3 2   X 2 8
:CZE Czech Republic 1 2 2 2 1   1 8
:DEN Denmark             1 1
:EST Estonia             1 1
:FIN Finland 1             1
:GER Germany 2 3 2 2 1 X 1 10
:ITA Italy 1 2   1     2 6
:JPN Japan 3 3 3 3 2 X 2 10
:KAZ Kazakhstan 1 1 1         3
:NED Netherlands 3 3 3 3 2 X 2 10
:NOR Norway 1 2 2 1       6
:POL Poland 1 1 3 3   X 1 9
Olympic Athletes from Russia 3 3 3 2 2 X 2 10
:KOR South Korea 3 3       X 2 8
:SUI Switzerland             1 1
:TPE Taiwan 1 1 1         3
:USA United States 3 3 3 1 1   2 8

 

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6 hours ago, Nate River said:

ISU announced the qualification standings for speed skating, baring any reallocation or issues with the 180 athlete quota. Keep in mind most countries won't use their maximum quota due to athletes competing in multiple events.

 

The Netherlands is the only country with the maximum number of quotas in every event. Canada also has the maximum number of athlete quota.

 

Men

  500m 1000m 1500m 5000m 10000m TP MS MAX
:AUS Australia 1 1           2
:AUT Austria             1 1
:BLR Belarus 1 1           2
:BEL Belgium     1 1     1 3
:CAN Canada 3 3 3 1 2 X 1 10
:CHN China 2             2
:COL Colombia 1 1           2
:DEN Denmark             2 2
:EST Estonia   1           1
:FIN Finland 2 1           3
:FRA France     1 1     1 3
:GER Germany 1 2 1 2 2     8
:HUN Hungary   1 1         2
:ITA Italy 1 1 2 3 2 X 1 10
:JPN Japan 3 3 3 2   X 2 8
:KAZ Kazakhstan 2 3 2         7
:LAT Latvia   1 1 1     1 4
:NED Netherlands 3 3 3 3 2 X 2 10
:NZL New Zealand     2 1 1 X 2 6
:NOR Norway 3 2 3 3 1 X 2 10
:POL Poland 3 3 3       1 8
Olympic Athletes from Russia 3 3 3 3 1   2 8
:KOR South Korea 3 3 2 1 1 X 2 10
:SWE Sweden     1 1       2
:SUI Switzerland     1 1     1 3
:TPE Taiwan 1             1
:USA United States 3 3 3     X 2 8

 

Women

  500m 1000m 1500m 3000m 5000m TP MS MAX
:AUT Austria 1 1 1       1 4
:BLR Belarus     1 1 1   1 4
:BEL Belgium     1         1
:CAN Canada 3 3 3 3 2 X 2 10
:CHN China 3 3 3 2   X 2 8
:CZE Czech Republic 1 2 2 2 1   1 8
:DEN Denmark             1 1
:EST Estonia             1 1
:FIN Finland 1             1
:GER Germany 2 3 2 2 1 X 1 10
:ITA Italy 1 2   1     2 6
:JPN Japan 3 3 3 3 2 X 2 10
:KAZ Kazakhstan 1 1 1         3
:NED Netherlands 3 3 3 3 2 X 2 10
:NOR Norway 1 2 2 1       6
:POL Poland 1 1 3 3   X 1 9
Olympic Athletes from Russia 3 3 3 2 2 X 2 10
:KOR South Korea 3 3       X 2 8
:SUI Switzerland             1 1
:TPE Taiwan 1 1 1         3
:USA United States 3 3 3 1 1   2 8

 

 

I can tell you right now that Italy at 99.9% will use just 5 (max 6) men's quota (Nenzi in 500/1000m, Giovannini, Tumulero, Ghiotto, Bugari for all the other individual events and the Team Pursuit and maybe a further reserve guy -with no chance of skating in the actual Olympic event, however- for this last one) and only 3 women's quota (Yvonne Daldossi 500/1000m, Bettrone 1000m/Mass Start and Lollobrigida 3000m/Mass Start)...

there's no chance to see any other athlete in our team...

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7 hours ago, phelps said:

 

I can tell you right now that Italy at 99.9% will use just 5 (max 6) men's quota (Nenzi in 500/1000m, Giovannini, Tumulero, Ghiotto, Bugari for all the other individual events and the Team Pursuit and maybe a further reserve guy -with no chance of skating in the actual Olympic event, however- for this last one) and only 3 women's quota (Yvonne Daldossi 500/1000m, Bettrone 1000m/Mass Start and Lollobrigida 3000m/Mass Start)...

there's no chance to see any other athlete in our team...

The max quota is just an upper bound, a lot of (most?) NOCs won’t use them all.

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