Artistic Gymnastics 2016 Discussion Thread

[thiago_simoes 1,423]

Em 9/2/2016 at 14:57, Maxim Fastovsky disse:

Now that Rio is Over ( :'( ) i'm looking into going to the Gymnastics world championships in Montreal next year. However i see that there is no team competition, only All Around and event Finals, and i also see that every world championship after olympic don't have team competition, any reason for that?

 

Good question.

 

There are two reasons for that: 1) the Code of Points changes after each Olympic cycle, so the CoP for 2017-2020 is radically different from the one in use now. It is important for countries to take the time to test new possibilities at the world stage; and 2) usually, many gymnasts retire after the Olympics, so it's hard for some countries to form a good and competitive team. Because of that, FIG has decided that the World Championships held immediately after the Olympics are an event for "new" gymnasts to show up and for countries to send specialists in apparatus to compete.

[heywoodu 15,164]

How is point 1 a reason not to have a team competition? 

[thiago_simoes 1,423]

17 horas atrás, heywoodu disse:

How is point 1 a reason not to have a team competition? 

 

There's little time for gymnasts to test new routines in international competition, so it's usually hard for some countries (including Russia and Romania) to have six gymnasts with good routines in time for the World Championships. Even the US girls often have trouble adapting to the new Code of Points. The level of the team competition would be very low.

Besides, it is important for gymnasts to take their time and adapt to the Code of Points instead of adding big skills and huge difficulty to their routines without serious thought, what would increase the risk of nasty injuries. 

[AmericanHero40 213]

8 hours ago, thiago_simoes said:

 

There's little time for gymnasts to test new routines in international competition, so it's usually hard for some countries (including Russia and Romania) to have six gymnasts with good routines in time for the World Championships. Even the US girls often have trouble adapting to the new Code of Points. The level of the team competition would be very low.

Besides, it is important for gymnasts to take their time and adapt to the Code of Points instead of adding big skills and huge difficulty to their routines without serious thought, what would increase the risk of nasty injuries. 

That's why probably Simone Biles said she's taking a year off.... although she might still go to Montreal.... hopefully!

[tirtha22 233]

Difficulty values of lots of moves changed post Rio Olympics

 

http://www.wogymnast.com/2016/09/beyond-rio-skills-difficulty-values.html

[thiago_simoes 1,423]

Em 9/17/2016 at 10:47, tirtha22 disse:

Difficulty values of lots of moves changed post Rio Olympics

 

http://www.wogymnast.com/2016/09/beyond-rio-skills-difficulty-values.html

 

Reading the new rules carefully, it almost looks like they took a look at Sanne Wevers' gold medal routine on beam and said "Hmmm, how can we completely screw this gymnast up so she will never, ever win gold again?". Everything she performs on beam took a very big hit, and her winning routine at the Olympics is nearly useless now with this new Code of Points. Ouch.

On Vault, it might look like they want gymnasts to perform the Produnova more safely, but at the same time the gap between the Produnova and the other vaults is still so big that gymnasts will keep vaulting it, even though the execution is not good. This new Code of Points does not solve the main problem it was supposed to address. What a joke.

[heywoodu 15,164]

5 hours ago, thiago_simoes said:

 

Reading the new rules carefully, it almost looks like they took a look at Sanne Wevers' gold medal routine on beam and said "Hmmm, how can we completely screw this gymnast up so she will never, ever win gold again?". Everything she performs on beam took a very big hit, and her winning routine at the Olympics is nearly useless now with this new Code of Points. Ouch.

 

Well that doesn't sound good..what did they change? The value of pirouettes or something like that? 

 

Edited September 19, 2016 by heywoodu

[thiago_simoes 1,423]

1 hora atrás, heywoodu disse:

Well that doesn't sound good..what did they change? The value of pirouettes or something like that? 

 

 

Yes. Turns, connection of turns and even her acrobatic dismount decreased in value, as far as I could understand.