Weightlifting 2021 Discussion Thread

[MHSN 3,813]

8 hours ago, thiago_simoes said:

I think this is the best place for me to ask this question, instead of posting on the retirements thread.

According to Brazilian news, Fernando Reis informed the IWF that he will retire from the sport. The news mention that this will exempt him from taking any more anti-doping tests but, and that this is not set in stone because he can still revert this decision and resume training.

My question is: is this a common "tactic" for lifters to skip being tested? Is this something that other lifters usually do when they want to take a break and resume training later? I don't think Reis will be back, especially because he's 31 now and I expect his ban to last for at least 4 years, and I simply don't see how he could go back to the sport at 35/36. But I'm still curious about whether this is commonly used by athletes for not being tested or not.

You can't simply revert it. I mean you can revert it but then you have to wait 6 months (and be tested like others) to be allowed to compete in international competitions. (not sure if that's 6 months or 3 but I think that's 6)

 

our weightlifter Sohrab Moradi had this problem for 2016 Rio Olympics. when he was banned our WL federation mistakenly (and without his knowledge) announced him retired to the IWF and when he came back from his suspension trying to qualify for the Olympics he found out he has to wait another 6 months!  

 

later IWF (Ajan himself) allowed him to participate at the Pan-American Champs as a guest to complete his two qualification marks and he won the gold in Rio but he almost missed the Olympics because of that mistake.

[phelps 8,727]

it's 6 months... 

and in that period you have to pass quite a few tests (I don't remember the minimum number, but I know there's one) before being allowed to comeback...

[thiago_simoes 1,458]

It's still not as bad as I thought. I mean, he mentioned in his defense that he has an adenoma, a tumor which produces cortisol, and he has never taken any forbidden substances. If he proves his point, and this is a big if, I can see his ban being reduced or even maybe nullified. I have no idea if there were similar cases before and how these were judged, but in my mind if it's proved that it was a tumor with no fault whatsoever of the lifter himself, then banning him would be pretty harsh.

Anyway, a different point is that, if he ever returns to weightlifting, I don't think he's going to represent Brazil again. He lives in the USA, he doesn't plan to come back to Brazil and the only reason he represented Brazil is because the government paid him lots of money. When he was provisionally suspended, the funding was cut and it would be hard for him to get it back until everything has been proved.

[MHSN 3,813]

it seems they saved doping samples from other competitions as well!

list of doped weightlifters from 2012 European Champs in re-testing, some of these guys were already caught for other doping violations.

 

https://iwf.sport/2021/11/18/the-ita-asserts-13-rule-violations-against-weightlifters-following-a-re-analysis-campaign-of-2012-samples/

 

• Hysen Pulaku (Albania)
• Hanna Batsiushka (Belarus)
• Dimitris Minasidis (Cyprus)
• Irakli Turmanidze (Georgia)
• Rauli Tsirekidze (Georgia)
• Cristina Iovu (Moldova)
• Florin Ionut Croitoru (Romania)
• Razvan Constantin Martin (Romania)
• Oxana Slivenko (Russia)
• Gokhan Kilic (Turkey)
• Bunyami Sezer (Turkey)
• Hatice Yilmaz (Turkey)
• Fatih Baydar (Turkey)

[intoronto 6,907]

20 minutes ago, MHSN said:

it seems they saved doping samples from other competitions as well!

list of doped weightlifters from 2012 European Champs in re-testing, some of these guys were already caught for other doping violations.

 

https://iwf.sport/2021/11/18/the-ita-asserts-13-rule-violations-against-weightlifters-following-a-re-analysis-campaign-of-2012-samples/

 

• Hysen Pulaku (Albania)
• Hanna Batsiushka (Belarus)
• Dimitris Minasidis (Cyprus)
• Irakli Turmanidze (Georgia)
• Rauli Tsirekidze (Georgia)
• Cristina Iovu (Moldova)
• Florin Ionut Croitoru (Romania)
• Razvan Constantin Martin (Romania)
• Oxana Slivenko (Russia)
• Gokhan Kilic (Turkey)
• Bunyami Sezer (Turkey)
• Hatice Yilmaz (Turkey)
• Fatih Baydar (Turkey)

Does this mean and results after this event is also disqualified?

[MHSN 3,813]

13 minutes ago, intoronto said:

Does this mean and results after this event is also disqualified?

maybe but I'm not sure. they didn't disqualify all of Ilya Ilyin's results even though he was caught twice both in 2008 and 2012. but they did that for some other weightlifters , so I don't know how it works

[Federer91 3,386]

In shocking news today, Bozhidar Andreev has announced his retirement from the sport at 24 and just weeks before the Worlds. There is no conflict, he is not injured, he said, he just doesn't want to train anymore... This guy always had a problem in his head, so i'm not that surprised. Weightlifting is not the sport, which attracts people with many brain cells.

[George_D 1,640]

Weightlifting heads for trouble again as IWF calls off elections

https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1115994/iwf-calls-off-elections

[phelps 8,727]

I'm sorry for the sport, but it's really time to get rid of those cheaters once and forever...