dezbee2008 819 Posted October 6, 2020 #231 Share Posted October 6, 2020 16 hours ago, dcro said: Are You Pro-Establishment or Anti-Establishment? Pro-establishment (PE) nations usually award (sometimes considerable) points to TISC champions and podium-finishers. Anti-establishment (AE) nations have their own agenda. They continuosly ignore the leading charts. So we finally got a name for my erratic voting (aka my badge of honor, I guess) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Liu 1,682 Posted October 6, 2020 #232 Share Posted October 6, 2020 CHINA Hua Chenyu - The Dust in the Fireworks One of the most famous and representative songs of Chinese iconic young singer Hua Chenyu, released in 2014 and largely popular among the youth until now. The song is about the self talking of a lost youngster. Gianlu33 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werloc 3,164 Posted October 6, 2020 #233 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Can't wait for the songs to be up, going to have loads of free time from 12th to 14th, so I expect to squeeze in the first two listens by then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vektor 3,326 Posted October 7, 2020 #234 Share Posted October 7, 2020 I was thinking about calculating an "overall ranking" of the nations in TISC and show how it changed after each contest, because this will be the 15th contest, so why not. I have decided to just simply use the Eurovision Top10 point system for each year (so the winner of a contest gets 12 points, the runner-up gets 10, and then 8, 7, 6, etc.). The table below shows what the overall ranking of the nations was according to these Top10 points after each contest. As you would expect, the ranking becomes more stagnant as we move forward in time, and a certain nation is almost unreachable after 14 contests with their 89 points, the second nation behind them has 57 points. That's a 32 points lead, which is.. a lot, if we keep in mind that Ireland has a 12/14 success rate at getting Top10 placements. O2013 A2014 O2014 A2015 O2015 A2016 O2016 A2017 O2017 A2018 O2018 A2019 O2019 A2020 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th 8th 9th 10th Out of the Top10 I wanted to mess with this a bit more so I used a really simple method to show some trends over time, giving the more recent contests a higher weight. Instead of just calculating the sum of the points I have multiplied the points of the most recent contest by 8, the one before that by 7, the one before that by 6, and so on. So only the points of the last 8 contests count with the most recent contest having the highest multiplier. Why 8? I wanted to go with the length of an Olympic cycle, 4 years. And as you can see, even with this method Ireland dominates. Duh. O2013 A2014 O2014 A2015 O2015 A2016 O2016 A2017 O2017 A2018 O2018 A2019 O2019 A2020 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th 8th 9th 10th Out of the Top10 Wumo, Gianlu33, Wanderer and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcro 10,210 Posted October 7, 2020 #235 Share Posted October 7, 2020 You can so easily see the Lithuanian rise and fall. #banbestmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werloc 3,164 Posted October 7, 2020 #236 Share Posted October 7, 2020 16 minutes ago, dcro said: You can so easily see the Lithuanian rise and fall. The fact that you can even see the Lithuanian flag in this table around so many prominent countries is an achievement. I've got a bit lose over the years and started experimenting a bit more, but I really want to get a top 10 again, especially after the 2020 Annual flop, to prove to myself that I can still succeed in this game Perhaps when I'm 56, I'll be helping the Lithuanian Eurovision selection and I will look back at all of these years of jury experience in TISC with tears in my eyes, thankful that I've been prepared for this exact moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoodu 15,140 Posted October 7, 2020 Author #237 Share Posted October 7, 2020 A playlist is in the making Vektor 1 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoodu 15,140 Posted October 7, 2020 Author #238 Share Posted October 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Werloc said: The fact that you can even see the Lithuanian flag in this table around so many prominent countries is an achievement. I've got a bit lose over the years and started experimenting a bit more, but I really want to get a top 10 again, especially after the 2020 Annual flop, to prove to myself that I can still succeed in this game Perhaps when I'm 56, I'll be helping the Lithuanian Eurovision selection and I will look back at all of these years of jury experience in TISC with tears in my eyes, thankful that I've been prepared for this exact moment. This genuinely makes me wonder how old you are now. Like, 'when I'm 56', is that a far away thing or is that secretly already in 2022 or something? . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werloc 3,164 Posted October 7, 2020 #239 Share Posted October 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, heywoodu said: This genuinely makes me wonder how old you are now. Like, 'when I'm 56', is that a far away thing or is that secretly already in 2022 or something? I'm gonna be 26 in a week-ish, but I just don't pour too much optimism into my success Throughout many years in my industry I've seen that people really like to talk a lot, but rarely do they follow through with their promises and I'd dare say that my whole career up to now was trying a lot of everything without getting the chance to take that next step. On the other hand, I might be decently involved with Eurovision this upcoming year and if I keep doing what I'm doing, that whole thing would be a possibility earlier than me being 56 It's just that it's hard for me to trust people as I've already seen so many of my projects crash and burn that I'm simply dreaming carefully from now on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wumo 3,001 Posted October 8, 2020 #240 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Denmark After a long and thorough selection process, the Danish national jury can finally present its entry for TOISC 2020. The Danish national jury has chosen to send the psychedelic rock group, Savage Rose. They have produced music for more than 50 years and influenced Danish music with their sound and lyrics. They have a long and waste discography to choose from, so it was difficult to choose which song to sent. In the end, it was decided to send the song, "Wild Child", from 1973. Savage Rose - "Wild Child" Lyrics: Spoiler The sunlight hits the city As a hammer hits the glow The gypsy waves farewell to me As I hit the Poppy Road I'm a Wild Child I'm a Wild Child I'm standing on the hillside With two rainbows in my hair One is for the living love The other for the dead I'm a Wild Child .... I hear the sound of voices And a working day begins My souvenir is misfortune And a burning heart within I'm a Wild Child .... The echo of a guitar And the singers standing by They tell about her future But they never tell me why I'm a Wild Child .... The world is in my hands The sorrow in my name Since I heard you cry for me I've never been the same I'm a Wild Child .... I'm throwing down a coin Into the wishing well I hear it hits the water As a rambler hits the trail I'm a Wild Child .... So when you see me passing by Looking for some help Don't talk, don't laugh, don't criticize But care about yourself I'm a Wild Child .... Agger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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