Wrestling UWW World Championships 2025

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23 minutes ago, copravolley said:

You still need to build a strong women's team, but that's probably more of a political case? Nevertheless, there are many more possibile medals to be won, of course, if that Iranian women are want to practice this sport. The same is for women volleyball.

unfortunately women's wrestling doesn't even exist in Iran. girls try some kind of traditional wrestling (which is much more clothed) here and there but nothing about the Olympic wrestling yet.

 

I think from the Olympic sports only wrestling and boxing are not active at all among the women here. lots of talks about activating women's boxing but wrestling is still a no no. hopefully that changes in future but that's unlikely anytime soon, as long as this regime exists with their stupid religious ideas. but who knows weightlifting was also a no-no at first but eventually became active since 2018. things change, unfortunately in a slow rate.

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13 minutes ago, MHSN said:

unfortunately women's wrestling doesn't even exist in Iran. girls try some kind of traditional wrestling (which is much more clothed) here and there but nothing about the Olympic wrestling yet.

 

I think from the Olympic sports only wrestling and boxing are not active at all among the women here. lots of talks about activating women's boxing but wrestling is still a no no. hopefully that changes in future but that's unlikely anytime soon, as long as this regime exists with their stupid religious ideas. but who knows weightlifting was also a no-no at first but eventually became active since 2018. things change, unfortunately in a slow rate.

Turkey is also a Muslim country and it looks completely different in women sports: wrestling, boxing, volleyball, basketball and recently even footbal!!! etc. I wonder if there are any political forces in Iran that would like to follow Turkish model of life?

Edited September 20 by copravolley

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9 hours ago, copravolley said:

Turkey is also a Muslim country and it looks completely different in women sports: wrestling, boxing, volleyball, basketball and recently even footbal!!! etc. I wonder if there are any political forces in Iran that would like to follow Turkish model of life?

two completely different things, Islamic countries are totally different than each other

 

Turkish government is based on secularism, the current regime in Iran (The Islamic Republic) is based on Islam (I mean their own version of Islam which is different than any other country)

 

OK I have to give you a long answer, let me explain the basics of the situation in Iran

 

since this regime came to power in 1979 (after toppling the previous bloody dictator) they made a rule forcing women to cover their hair/body/curves etc. they also stopped women's sports completely at the time.

during all these years women fought hard for their rights, LOTS of things changed since then, if you walk in Tehran nowadays you see lots of women walking around with nothing on their head. for now the regime has other problems to deal with, and let that go. (not sure if that's forever or just for now) you also can google 2022 Mahsa Amini protests, that's the worst protest this regime had seen so far.

 

as for the women's sports, that started in 1990 with Shooting (the sport with less movement) then Canoeing (another sport with less movement) and slowly other sports joined the club. right now every Olympic sport is active here (except boxing and wrestling) some of them like Swimming doesn't participate in international competitions for obvious reasons though.

if you watch Iranian women in any sport, they have a very loose Hijab, just something on the hair to satisfy the government. women here came a very long way to be here. bcz if we look back at 1990, that shooting team at the 1990 Asian Games had to participate under something called "Chador" (you can google it, that's super religious)

 

so what will happen next? I don't know. as long as this delusional old man lives I don't expect much more. women for sure will fight for their rights, not sure how much more they can gain from this old man. but after he dies finally (he is 86) we can go in a very good direction or maybe in a very bad direction (North Korea way) or even worse . it's just unpredictable. lots of good or bad or even worse scenarios can happen in that important day.

 

and yes there are some political forces here pushing for such things more or less but they don't have the power. that old man does and he is taking the country down with himself.

Edited September 21 by MHSN

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21 minutes ago, MHSN said:

two completely different things, Islamic countries are totally different than each other

 

Turkish government is based on secularism, the current regime in Iran (The Islamic Republic) is based on Islam (I mean their own version of Islam which is different than any other country)

 

OK I have to give you a long answer, let me explain the basics of the situation in Iran

 

since this regime came to power in 1979 (after toppling the previous bloody dictator) they made a rule forcing women to cover their hair/body/curves etc. they also stopped women's sports completely at the time.

during all these years women fought hard for their rights, LOTS of things changed since then, if you walk in Tehran nowadays you see lots of women walking around with nothing on their head. for now the regime has other problems to deal with, and let that go. (not sure if that's forever or just for now) you also can google 2022 Mahsa Amini protests, that's the worst protest this regime had seen so far.

 

as for the women's sports, that started in 1990 with Shooting (the sport with less movement) then Canoeing (another sport with less movement) and slowly other sports joined the club. right now every Olympic sport is active here (except boxing and wrestling) some of them like Swimming doesn't participate in international competitions for obvious reasons though.

if you watch Iranian women in any sport, they have a very loose Hijab, just something on the hair to satisfy the government. women here came a very long way to be here. bcz if we look back at 1990, that shooting team at the 1990 Asian Games had to participate under something called "Chador" (you can google it, that's super religious)

 

so what will happen next? I don't know. as long as this delusional old man lives I don't expect much more. women for sure will fight for their rights, not sure how much more they can gain from this old man. but after he dies finally (he is 86) we can go in a very good direction or maybe in a very bad direction (North Korea way) or even worse . it's just unpredictable. lots of good or bad or even worse scenarios can happen in that important day.

 

and yes there are some political forces here pushing for such things more or less but they don't have the power. that old man does and he is taking the country town with himself.

Thanks, to long answer. 

 

Another me question: how would you compare Iran after the revolution to Iraq under Saddam Husajn? I don't think there was such radical Islam in Iraq, but women didn't seem to be actived in sports, right? I remember Iran and Iraq fighting a long war in the 1980s. Are your relations still as tense now? On the other hand, Iraq is a bit of a failed state now, because under Saddam Hussein it was quite a significant player in your region?

Edited September 21 by copravolley

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8 hours ago, MHSN said:

One match yesterday made everybody upset and angry here. 

 

This is the handiwork of  Ibrahim Ghanem at 72kg quarterfinal. for the entire match he hit Danial Sohrabi all over his face with punch, slap, headbutt, shoulders and eventually ended up winning the match bcz of the end of Sohrabi's bleeding time ! (per UWW rules you have 4 minutes of bleeding time) 

 

Sohrabi came back the next day to win the bronze, with a shaved head. swollen blue eyes (both), lots of stitches on his lips, one eyebrow and his chin. 

 

Ironically the abusive French guy did that again in the final against  Ganizade in the last minute leaving him bloody. only this time the refs weren't corrupt/terrible and penalized him and therefore he lost the gold he never deserved. 

 

 

 

Wow thanks for the insight! Nobody here talks about wrestling..

I will put Ghanem on my sh**list 

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8 hours ago, MHSN said:

think from the Olympic sports only wrestling and boxing are not active at all among the women here. lots of talks about activating women's boxing but wrestling is still a no no.

I see Iranian women in Wushu and Taekwondo so boxing and wrestling should have started right?

 

Are they some rules which hinder it?

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13 minutes ago, Fly_like_a_don said:

I see Iranian women in Wushu and Taekwondo so boxing and wrestling should have started right?

 

Are they some rules which hinder it?

That is a question i wanted to ask for some time!!! Glad you did it.

Edited September 21 by rafalgorka

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8 hours ago, MHSN said:

 but after he dies finally (he is 86) we can go in a very good direction 

Oh i keep my fingers crossed so much for this scenario for People of Iran

 

Here in Poland we will never forget how much Iran helped our people fleeing from USSR during World War Two 

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8 hours ago, copravolley said:

Thanks, to long answer. 

 

Another me question: how would you compare Iran after the revolution to Iraq under Saddam Husajn? I don't think there was such radical Islam in Iraq, but women didn't seem to be actived in sports, right? I remember Iran and Iraq fighting a long war in the 1980s. Are your relations still as tense now? On the other hand, Iraq is a bit of a failed state now, because under Saddam Hussein it was quite a significant player in your region?

1. totally different things. Iraq under Saddam was a one-man dictatorship. if I'm not wrong he was secular himself but just a bloody ruthless dictator (like Bashar al-Assad) he and his sons could do whatever they want

IR Iran on the other hand is a theocracy. it's much more complicated. they care about the public opinion to some degree. (but not about their redlines) let's say the political system in Iran is a mixture of democracy and dictatorship, which is a weird and unique combination. the outcome is disastrous though.

 

2. in some Islamic countries another thing stops women from being active in sports, the culture. for example MBS opened up everything in KSA but it will take years and years to change the culture there to see Saudi women competing in all sports. Iraq is facing the same issue. specially in Southern parts of the country. 

Iran on the other hand is the exact opposite. 

 

3. yeah that was a bloody terrible disastrous war for 8 years. normally it should be very hard/impossible to forget but surprisingly from our point of view everything is forgotten. not sure about the Iraqi's view but I assume that's the same, I know they don't like Iranian regime meddling in their political businesses but this is a new thing, not related to the war.

let's say the public opinion here blamed that war on Saddam himself, not the people of Iraq. so when he was gone, the tension was gone too. 

 

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2 hours ago, Fly_like_a_don said:

I see Iranian women in Wushu and Taekwondo so boxing and wrestling should have started right?

 

Are they some rules which hinder it?

Dress code I guess ?