Athletics WA World Championships 2025

[Swewi 460]

1 hour ago, copravolley said:

Overall: Is lane 2 really a difficult things, or is it just a myth? For example, Marita Koch had her World Record run from lane 2. What do you think?

It is both the disandvatage of  slightly sharper turns but also more meters in the curve. If you race on lane 1 you have to go 100% of the lap, lane 8 gets to skip almost half of the first curve and Will have more meters of straight running

[Dragon 2,026]

3 hours ago, Dragon said:

Nigerian team management have appealed against Benjamin

OK, I was given false information. Nigeria did not appeal but Brazil and Qatar did appeal against Benjamin

[Topicmaster1010 5,330]

 Qatar and  Slovakia joined the medal table today so we are now at 43 nations with a medal. 4 more needed to surpass the 46 from Budapest 2023.

[Dragon 2,026]

2 hours ago, copravolley said:

Overall: Is lane 2 really a difficult things, or is it just a myth? For example, Marita Koch had her World Record run from lane 2. What do you think?

I think it's worse if you're a tall athlete with a long stride

[copravolley 498]

Let's move to the year 2000 - the summer of 2000 reminds me of this song:

 

 

[Monzanator 4,768]

@copravolleyLike @Swewisaid Lane 1 is effectively the one where you run the full 400 meters. In Lanes 5-6 - due to cutting the curve you can run like 398 meters. The difference in lenght is commonplace in oval tracks in motorsports as well. You can have the same track with two different lenghts listed as one is measured in the middle of the track and the second is towards the bottom of the track. And the lenght varies between the two spots.

[copravolley 498]

2 minutes ago, Monzanator said:

@copravolleyLike @Swewisaid Lane 1 is effectively the one where you run the full 400 meters. In Lanes 5-6 - due to cutting the curve you can run like 398 meters. The difference in lenght is commonplace in oval tracks in motorsports as well. You can have the same track with two different lenghts listed as one is measured in the middle of the track and the second is towards the bottom of the track. And the lenght varies between the two spots.

The 1 lane maybe be worse, but 2 looks okay, looking the Slovak won bronze today running on it... Maybe, she would have run slightly faster in lanes 5 or 6, but it wouldn't have changed her final result. But of course, if someone is in bad shape and is just looking for an alibi for their bad results, there's always something to be found: a bad track, rain, the World Championships in September, etc.

[copravolley 498]

So, I'm opening a discussion about the miracle of Italian athletics in only 10 years: 2015 vs 2025 Any ideas, conclusions, etc.?

I would certainly appreciate of feedback from users from Italy, but also from other countries. Perhaps we'll reach some interesting conclusions

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italy_at_the_2015_World_Championships_in_Athletics vs https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italy_at_the_2025_World_Athletics_Championships

Edited September 19 by copravolley

[Olympian1010 8,229]

7 hours ago, heywoodu said:

To be fair, that just seems to be his catchphrase, he also shouted that to his own coach and to the board with the distance  

I assume he went to the Pete Weber school of the celebrations then 

 

 

[phelps 8,279]

19 minutes ago, copravolley said:

So, I'm opening a discussion about the miracle of Italian athletics in only 10 years: 2015 vs 2025 Any ideas, conclusions, etc.?

I would certainly appreciate of feedback from users from Italy, but also from other countries. Perhaps we'll reach some interesting conclusions

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italy_at_the_2015_World_Championships_in_Athletics vs https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italy_at_the_2025_World_Athletics_Championships

it's not a miracle, it's only about younger coaches who travelled, studied, have updated themselves and their knowledge going abroad, becoming more and more "global", bringing new up to date training methods, instead of an old generation being stuck to old, surpassed and less effective theories (and this can be applied to many sports increasing their success rate in the last 20 years, swimming just to name one)

 

add to that a few guys with better genetics (yeah, the "new Italians") and you get better results, also in disciplines where you were not used to (sprint & jumping, to name a couple)

some of these might also be occasional, thanks to a generational talent (Jacobs and the 100m), some others might be repeated because of an established "school", like the many good high jumpers

 

however, we've always had a good number of kids practicing athletics, it's not a miracle if we start to become more successful

 

the miracle is having people winning titles in sport like slalom canoeing or speedskating, where we only have a few hundreds of guys practicing the sport and no more than 2 or 3 places where to train professionally in the whole Country