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43 minutes ago, ChandlerMne said:

Exactly. If someone lands 100 clean punches while his opponent lands just 50, no judge could overrule that, no matter how badly he would like.

Boxing cant be like artistic gymnastic where marks are indeed arbitrary. Its not an artistic impression but counting punches. Are they so stupid to realise that...

Imagine, for example, football, where goals don't count and after the match some jury meets and decides based on their impressions who wins the match and who loses. No one knows what's going on and why it's happening. After these games I'll never watch another boxing  again.

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I will definitely not watch boxing in this form again :P It's just a shame that our boys and girls, who for 3 years won a lot of medals at the World Championships and European Championships, only to be cut out on the first night, for some unknown reason. If I were them, I would throw it all to hell. 

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31 minutes ago, dodge said:

Time for me to pop in and say it’s clear some of you don’t understand the sport

 

So yes, maybe some of you should stop watching it.

 

(Not all, of course)

It's okay to accept defeat if you know why you lost. Then you can learn from it. It's worse if your entire 3-4 years of work depends on a few corrupt clowns who can screw you in one night.

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The old scoring system sucked *and* didn't solve any of the controversies, lets not get back to that nonsense please.

 

Boxing is legitimately one of the hardest sport to judge accurately. The only way Olympic boxing can be fair is to have a very competent organization that takes officiating very seriously in charge. Changing the scoring system so it becomes "fencing with fists" won't help and it will create bad fights.

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6 minutes ago, NearPup said:

The old scoring system sucked *and* didn't solve any of the controversies, lets not get back to that nonsense please.

 

Boxing is legitimately one of the hardest sport to judge accurately. The only way Olympic boxing can be fair is to have a very competent organization that takes officiating very seriously in charge. Changing the scoring system so it becomes "fencing with fists" won't help and it will create bad fights.

Fencing is also very difficult to evaluate and there is a lot of controversy in it but at least you can see the constantly changing result. Boxing should sooner go in the direction of taekwondo, meaning there should be sensors that register punches and some machine should count them on an ongoing basis. Then there will be no room for abuse. And now, who knows what counts? The number of punches, accuracy, strength? Or maybe someone raising their hand in a gesture of triumph after winning a fight? Every judge assesses it differently, there are many contradictions and absurd situations. It's more of a circus than a sport.

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8 minutes ago, copravolley said:

Fencing is also very difficult to evaluate and there is a lot of controversy in it but at least you can see the constantly changing result.

You can't change the scoring system to avoid corruption, you have to take fighting corruption seriously as an organization. The IBF was incredibly corrupt, there is literally no scoring system that would have changed that. The Task Force has no power, they can't fight corruption.

 

The only solution is that we need an organization that organizes boxing that is serious about fighting corruption, we need a way to evaluate the accuracy and the bias of judges, we need clear scoring criteria (and no those criteria cannot be "who punched who more" if we want the sport to thrive) and judging at the Olympics has to be a reward for being among the best judges in the world.

 

But at the end of the day boxing is a judged sport, there will always be some subjectivity. Which is why we need good and impartial judges and a lot more communication.

 

Sports like surfing, skateboarding, snowboarding and freestyle skiing have even vaguer judging criteria than boxing, yet they generate a lot less controversy because the judges take their jobs seriously and communicate freely with athletes and coaches about what the criteria are and why they made certain decisions.

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IOC defends allowing boxers who failed gender tests to compete at Paris 2024 Olympic Games.

 

Khelif and Lin to fight in Olympic women’s competition.

 

Pair were barred from 2023 world championships.

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First quarterfinals today, let's see if we have a day without people claiming their fighter was robbed :d (and yes that will include me if Heijnen loses tonight, she's obviously robbed then :p )

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5 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

First quarterfinals today, let's see if we have a day without people claiming their fighter was robbed :d (and yes that will include me if Heijnen loses tonight, she's obviously robbed then :p )

Depends on money deposited by your team into the judges' pocket

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