OlympicsFan 860 Posted March 28, 2016 #51 Share Posted March 28, 2016 21 minutes ago, EselTheDonkey said: Sorry, but mentioning Engleder is wrong. She would have won an Olympic Quota place. It's just that two other Germans won a quota place earlier, which is why they were mentioned by name here. This was done not to count an athlete twice in the Olympic qualification, not because this is *their" quota place. Yes i know, you said it before and you dont have to repeat it every day. In my opinion winning the quota place first is also an "achievement", so those athletes should be the first choices for the quota places. Engleder had the same chance as everyone else, but there were two athletes who won the quota places before her, so those athletes performed better under pressure and in my opinion those athletes are more likely to medal at the olympic games. Attachment is the great fabricator of illusions; reality can be obtained only by someone who is detached. Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/25-shooting-qualification-for-summer-olympic-games-2016/page/6/#findComment-5183 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlympicsFan 860 Posted March 28, 2016 #52 Share Posted March 28, 2016 1 hour ago, dcro said: It is official. We will not trade place. Our policy in shooting has always been that athletes that have earned the quota themselves are selected for Olympics. Very sad for Durkovic, but i understand your federation. I think in a nation like China this wouldnt happen, they would never give away a possible medal chance so easy. Durkovic could maybe try to qualify in mens 10 m air rifle, taking away the quota place from Gorsa? Attachment is the great fabricator of illusions; reality can be obtained only by someone who is detached. Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/25-shooting-qualification-for-summer-olympic-games-2016/page/6/#findComment-5184 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EselTheDonkey 825 Posted March 28, 2016 #53 Share Posted March 28, 2016 8 minutes ago, OlympicsFan said: Yes i know, you said it before and you dont have to repeat it every day. In my opinion winning the quota place first is also an "achievement", so those athletes should be the first choices for the quota places. Engleder had the same chance as everyone else, but there were two athletes who won the quota places before her, so those athletes performed better under pressure and in my opinion those athletes are more likely to medal at the olympic games. But this is not how German federation will do it. Engleder has the same chance to go to the Olympics as the other two have. That's confirmed. MantaRaymarc 1 Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/25-shooting-qualification-for-summer-olympic-games-2016/page/6/#findComment-5187 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlympicsFan 860 Posted March 28, 2016 #54 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Just now, EselTheDonkey said: But this is not how German federation will do it. Engleder has the same chance to go to the Olympics as the other two have. That's confirmed. I know, i thought that i pointed it out, but maybe not enough. I said that Germany has two other athletes who won a quota place (and therefore those athletes didnt win a quota place). I know that the quota places are for nations and not for athletes, but in my opinion those athletes who won the quota places should be nominated for Rio, unless Engleder does something really special in the next couple of months. Attachment is the great fabricator of illusions; reality can be obtained only by someone who is detached. Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/25-shooting-qualification-for-summer-olympic-games-2016/page/6/#findComment-5188 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcro 10,210 Posted March 28, 2016 #55 Share Posted March 28, 2016 30 minutes ago, OlympicsFan said: Very sad for Durkovic, but i understand your federation. I think in a nation like China this wouldnt happen, they would never give away a possible medal chance so easy. Durkovic could maybe try to qualify in mens 10 m air rifle, taking away the quota place from Gorsa? Gorša is more successful than Đurković. Đurković is only good in prone, Gorša is very good in air rifle and 3 positions. #banbestmen Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/25-shooting-qualification-for-summer-olympic-games-2016/page/6/#findComment-5190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dareza 911 Posted March 28, 2016 #56 Share Posted March 28, 2016 2 hours ago, heywoodu said: There are 5 world ranked top-3 athletes who won't even go to the Olympics, including two world leaders? Arunovic from Serbia probably will be in Serbian team. Quota is for NOC and Serbian federation after WC in Munich will publish a list for the Olympic Games Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/25-shooting-qualification-for-summer-olympic-games-2016/page/6/#findComment-5197 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EselTheDonkey 825 Posted March 29, 2016 #57 Share Posted March 29, 2016 On 28.3.2016 at 11:54 AM, OlympicsFan said: I know that the quota places are for nations and not for athletes, but in my opinion those athletes who won the quota places should be nominated for Rio, unless Engleder does something really special in the next couple of months. Frankly, what you would do or what I would do doesn't really matter. In this case the DOSB made a decision, and they decided to give Engleder the same chance to qualify as the others. Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/25-shooting-qualification-for-summer-olympic-games-2016/page/6/#findComment-5347 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry_Leon 1,402 Posted March 29, 2016 #58 Share Posted March 29, 2016 On 3/3/2016 at 3:28 PM, hckosice said: MEN´S SKEET Qualified Nations: Federico Gil James Bolding Keith Ferguson Sebastian Kuntschik Renato Portela Juan Miguel Rodriguez Andreas Chasikos Jesper Hansen Franco Donato Azmy Mehelba Eric Delaunay Anthony Terras Ralf Buchheim Efthimios Mitas Mairaj Ahmad Khan Valerio Luchini Gabriele Rossetti Abdullah Al-Rashidi Saud Habib Rashid Saleh Hamad Alexander Zemlin Stefan Nilsson Marcus Svensson Mykola Milchev Saeed Al-Maktoum Saif Bin Futtaif Thomas Bayer Vincent Hancock Total Athletes Qualified 28 Total Nations Qualified 20 Luigi LODDA will replace Valerio Luchini at OG (withdrawn for personal reason) Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/25-shooting-qualification-for-summer-olympic-games-2016/page/6/#findComment-5367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hckošice 15,027 Posted March 29, 2016 #59 Share Posted March 29, 2016 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Henry_Leon said: Luigi LODDA will replace Valerio Luchini at OG (withdrawn for personal reason) Thanks for the info also thanks to everyone who send the updated news, I´ll check them and update the lists in the next few days Edited March 29, 2016 by hckosice Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/25-shooting-qualification-for-summer-olympic-games-2016/page/6/#findComment-5368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vojthas 949 Posted April 2, 2016 #60 Share Posted April 2, 2016 Info from Nemzeti Sport about team: M Rifle - Péter Sidi (all), István Péni (air and three positions), Norbert Szabián (prone) M Pistol - Miklós Tátrai (10m and 50m) W Rifle - Julianna Miskolczi (both) W Pistol - Renáta Tobai-Sike (both), Zsófia Csonka (25m), Viktória Egri (10m) Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/25-shooting-qualification-for-summer-olympic-games-2016/page/6/#findComment-5844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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