OlympicIRL 5,532 Posted April 10, 2020 #1131 Share Posted April 10, 2020 Oh and of course the traditional Czechoslovak trophy which @hckosice will be trying hard to defend again tomorrow . Wanderer, Olympian1010 and rybak 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rybak 3,218 Posted April 10, 2020 #1132 Share Posted April 10, 2020 15 minut temu, Olympian1010 napisał: Spain 12 Spain 12 Olympian1010 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rybak 3,218 Posted April 10, 2020 #1133 Share Posted April 10, 2020 21 minut temu, OlympicIRL napisał: I wonder what memorable TISC moments we will make tomorrow. What are some of your fondest, clearest, most fun memories of past contests? Some things that immediately come to my mind.... The tangerine discussion The time when G.B. awarded gold, silver and bronze to the only 3 nations without a medal The thousand times that x nation cried about their lack of points before scoring a heap of points in the next vote, a famous TISC tactic Those one-by-one votes to decide the winner that we saw only on 3 occasions so far in TISC history Our usual discussions about food in between the voting sessions New Zealand and Lithuania giving high point to each other Penguins spoiling the voting Mentioned before "Spain 12" OlympicIRL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcro 10,210 Posted April 10, 2020 Author #1134 Share Posted April 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, heywoodu said: Every single time it comes from frustrated people who've sent non-English songs and aren't satisfied with their points total, even if the song is just considered not great in general. There are indeed non-English songs that actually are good and do get quite a lot of points. Ehm... I compiled detailed analysis on this. It clearly shows that English songs on average tend to collect about 50% (!) more points than the non-English songs. Average points-per-jury (2013 Open - 2019 Open) English songs - 2.77 non-English songs - 1.80 50% is just too much. Even statistical tests strongly suggest that this is not some random outcome, but rather a clear sign that English songs get better results. And before you say "There are many more non-English songs". That's not really the case. About 40% of all-time songs are in English. But if we narrow that pool... Percentage of English songs in the Top 10 - 68% hckošice, Fly_like_a_don, tuniscof and 1 other 4 #banbestmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoodu 15,144 Posted April 10, 2020 #1135 Share Posted April 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, dcro said: Ehm... I compiled detailed analysis on this. It clearly shows that English songs on average tend to collect about 50% (!) more points than the non-English songs. Average points-per-jury (2013 Open - 2019 Open) English songs - 2.77 non-English songs - 1.80 50% is just too much. Even statistical tests strongly suggest that this is not some random outcome, but rather a clear sign that English songs get better results. And before you say "There are many more non-English songs". That's not really the case. About 40% of all-time songs are in English. But if we narrow that pool... Percentage of English songs in the Top 10 - 68% Maybe the entered English songs are simply better, on average They sure are better than (most) Dutch songs I can think of. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcro 10,210 Posted April 10, 2020 Author #1136 Share Posted April 10, 2020 1 minute ago, heywoodu said: Maybe the entered English songs are simply better, on average They sure are better than (most) Dutch songs I can think of. Maybe. And there is also the fact that English-speaking nations tend to have more famous artists/songs. But anyway, my conclusion kind of was that while you are not guaranteed to get a personal best with an English song, you can probably expect better average placements if you enter them in a longer run... Olympian1010 and tuniscof 2 #banbestmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bohemia 1,411 Posted April 10, 2020 #1137 Share Posted April 10, 2020 38 minutes ago, OlympicIRL said: Those one-by-one votes to decide the winner that we saw only on 3 occasions so far in TISC history @hckosice we're counting on you to make it 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrv86 3,138 Posted April 10, 2020 #1138 Share Posted April 10, 2020 Very good opening ceremony @dcro Lovely country I need to visit when I have the chance. I only passed through it on my way from Budapest to Venice, but now I see you have many places to visit. See you everyone tomorrow. Best of luck to each song. dcro 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian1010 7,976 Posted April 10, 2020 #1139 Share Posted April 10, 2020 2 hours ago, heywoodu said: Every single time it comes from frustrated people who've sent non-English songs and aren't satisfied with their points total, even if the song is just considered not great in general. There are indeed non-English songs that actually are good and do get quite a lot of points. That doesn’t change the fact that many of the winners are English language songs, and most of the top 10 all-time are also in English. hckošice and Fly_like_a_don 2 “Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian1010 7,976 Posted April 10, 2020 #1140 Share Posted April 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Wanderer said: Everyone expecting another 12 to Romania from Moldova No, Spain 12. “Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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