Fencing FIE World Championships 2023

[Vektor 3,326]

20 hours ago, Vektor said:

Okay, let's try this...

 

Predicted WCh placements

 

1.   2.   3.   4.   5.   6.   7.   8.

 

Projected Olympic ranking

 

1.   217 pts - World 1

2.   192 pts - World 2

3.   176 pts - World 3

4.   172 pts - World 4

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5.   160 pts - Europe

6.   150 pts 

7.   142 pts - Asia

8.   128 pts - Africa

9.   116 pts - America

10.   116 pts

11.   114 pts

12.   99 pts

13.   98 pts

14.   89 pts

15.   83 pts

16.   76 pts

17.   76 pts

Men's sabre placement matches are done, so let's see how this Olympic ranking will look if  once again wins against  in the final (lol, I will not predict our win, it never happens, they always beat us)

 

A lot has changed, and not for the better for the Europeans.

 

1.   217 pts - World 1

2.   204 pts - World 2

3.   196 pts - World 3

4.   168 pts - World 4

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5.   148 pts - Europe

6.   142 pts - Asia

7.   134 pts

8.   128 pts - Africa

9.   118 pts

10.   116 pts - America

11.   112 pts

12.   99 pts

13.   98 pts

14.   89 pts

15.   83 pts

16.   76 pts

17.   76 pts

 

[phelps 8,287]

52 minutes ago, JoshMartini007 said:

I know it's due to quota limitations, but the team events at the Olympics should be expanded to 12 (obviously the individual spots would expand too). No event in the Olympics should be any smaller than 12 entrants.

 

46 minutes ago, Vektor said:

Men's epee definitely deserves it, it's waaaay too competitive just to have 8 spots. But there's absolutely no way that IOC gives 72 more athlete quotas to fencing. 284 athlete quotas would make it as big as wrestling with less events. 

imho, if the IOC finally understands that's time to get rid of Olympic Boxing, there would be no problem to enlarge the field of the remaining combat sports like Fencing and Taekwondo (and in part Wrestling, really penalized in the last few edition of the Games), which are already downsized to the bare minimum (especially considering how well widespread they are even at the highest level of play)

Edited July 28, 2023 by phelps

[phelps 8,287]

32 minutes ago, Vektor said:

Men's sabre placement matches are done, so let's see how this Olympic ranking will look if  once again wins against  in the final (lol, I will not predict our win, it never happens, they always beat us)

 

A lot has changed, and not for the better for the Europeans.

 

1.   217 pts - World 1

2.   204 pts - World 2

3.   196 pts - World 3

4.   168 pts - World 4

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5.   148 pts - Europe

6.   142 pts - Asia

7.   134 pts

8.   128 pts - Africa

9.   118 pts

10.   116 pts - America

11.   112 pts

12.   99 pts

13.   98 pts

14.   89 pts

15.   83 pts

16.   76 pts

17.   76 pts

 

I think top 3 are done and dusted

 

 could still get in trouble with a couple of bad outings in the next world cup events, but basically it will be a 4-stage showdown between  and  for the European spot...the draws will be really important (hope to not see any unfair ending because of that)

[phelps 8,287]

1 hour ago, Vektor said:

The placement matches are done in women's epee with the exception of the final.

 

If  wins against  in the final, this is how the Olympic ranking will look

 

1.   204 pts - World 1

2.   196 pts - World 2

3.   192 pts - World 3

4.   172 pts - World 4

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5.   135 pts - America

6.   134 pts - Europe

7.   132 pts - Asia

8.   124 pts

9.   122 pts

10.   114 pts

11.   113 pts

12.   108 pts - Africa

13.   105 pts

14.   104 pts

15.   98 pts

16.   68 pts

17.   68 pts

here it's even more obvious...no way the top 4 would eventually lose their spots

 

the European quota, instead, it's quite a mess...with  having a slight but not definitive advantage over  and  

 

I doubt any other team has any chance to comeback from the deep they've fallen into

 

in Asia, I think  still have the chance to overtake  but they need to wake up quickly

Edited July 28, 2023 by phelps

[Mecki83 155]

8 minutes ago, phelps said:

I think top 3 are done and dusted

 

 could still get in trouble with a couple of bad outings in the next world cup events, but basically it will be a 4-stage showdown between  and  for the European spot...the draws will be really important (hope to not see any unfair ending because of that)

I just did a rough estimation and if I am not mistaking, than Italy will be 3rd in World Ranking and Germany 6th, so if this is correct, there will be some important match-up in the next World Cups...

[phelps 8,287]

men's Team Epee, Quarterfinals

 

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[phelps 8,287]

Just now, Mecki83 said:

I just did a rough estimation and if I am not mistaking, than Italy will be 3rd in World Ranking and Germany 6th, so if this is correct, there will be some important match-up in the next World Cups...

well, at least that will be extremely fair: a series of direct matchups would be perfect (and wouldn't generate any regret on the losers)

[phelps 8,287]

7 minutes ago, phelps said:

men's Team Epee, Quarterfinals

 

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in terms of the Olympic Qualification, good that  and lost in the rd of 32, but Tomorrow's matchup between  and  is crucial for our team

 

we absolutely need to win that and score some big points at the end of the tournament

 

hopefully, also  should be stopped by  so to allow both the European powerhouses to close down on the top 4 of the OQR

Edited July 28, 2023 by phelps

[Benolympique 2,414]

8 minutes ago, phelps said:

in terms of the Olympic Qualification, good that  and lost in the rd of 32, but Tomorrow's matchup between  and  is crucial for our team

 

we absolutely need to win that and score some big points at the end of the tournament

 

hopefully, also  should be stopped by  so to allow both the European powerhouses to close down on the top 4 of the OQR

but that's how it will be! Finally, I hope !

[OlympicsFan 860]

So far everything is going according to plan for german fencing. Hopefully they won't mess it up in the remaining competitions.