Totallympics 55 Posted March 14, 2023 #1 Share Posted March 14, 2023 (edited) Boxing at the Pan American Games 2023 Santiago (CHI) - 19 October 2023 - 27 October 2023 Official Website Programme Results System Results Database Facebook Page Discussion Thread Edited October 18, 2023 by Sindo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogreman 205 Posted October 19, 2023 #2 Share Posted October 19, 2023 (edited) Right prediction time, lets try and break 60% this time. I doubt it but this one should be the most straightforward so far. Housekeeping so draws once again are unseeded although on initial viewing most of these turned out relatively even. 2 Olympic qualifiers per weightclass except W57kg and W60kg where there are 4. W50kg Gold- Ingrit Victoria , Silver- Jennifer Lozano , Bronze- Caroline de Almeida , Gracemarie Quiles Marti . Other Olympic calibre boxers- (Might be a bit harsh on Gomez and Florencia Lopez to not put them here.) Ingrit Valencia Victoria has made the podium of the last two world championships and the vastly experienced Colombian will be looking to make it to her third straight Olympics after winning bronze in Rio and losing in the quarters in Tokyo. She starts out as the comfortable favourite here. Her path to the final sees her face the winner of 2023 panamerican champ (not a strong field) Ingrid Gomez and 2022 48kg world bronze medallist Aldana Florencia Lopez before a likely semi final against 2022 52kg world bronze medallist Caroline de Almeida who herself doesn't have an easy path against the experienced Kathreen Sterling and probably world youth bronze medallist Novoanny Nunez . Their is a pretty cheap medal up for grabs here likely between Gracemarie Quiles Marti and McKenzie Wright . I don't rate Jennifer Lozano and I would have loved to pick against her here but the draw has just opened up for her and assuming she can come through relative unknown Susan Aguas Chala in her first fight she should relatively comfortably make the final. W54kg Gold- Yeni Arias , Silver- Scarlett Delgado , Bronze- Johana Gomez , Estefany Almanzar . Other Olympic calibre boxers- Yoseline Perez , . The US had a variety of mediocre boxers to pick from here and well they seem to opted for potential and picked 57kg world youth champion Yoseline Perez. They will get to make this selection all over again though because she has drawn Yeni Arias in one of just 3 last 16 fights. The Tokyo Olympian and current world silver medallist is the favourite to win here although the draw could have been a little kinder. Johana Gomez likely awaits in the semis assuming she beats Sofia Robles . The last 16 fight between Estefany Almanzar and 2022 South American champion Tatiana de Jesus Chagas will likely decide a medal and a realistic shot at Olympic qualification. Scarlett Delgado got about as good a draw as she could have hoped for having had prior wins against likely quarter final opponent Nicole Mattey and Estefany Almanzar. She is unlikely to trouble Yeni Arias in the final though. W57kg (top 4 to qualify) Gold- Ashleyann Lozada , Silver- Jucielen Romeu , Bronze- Valeria Arboleda , Omailyn Alcala . Other Olympic calibre boxers- Alyssa Mendoza The top bracket here makes you seriously question why there are four qualifying places available as whoever qualifies here will very likely the weakest boxer in this weightclass at the Olympics. Home boxer Tamara Maturana faces the winner of Miguelina Hernandez and Valeria Arboleda. The second bracket of this draw is much tougher though with Ashleyann Lozada who has won a number of various American titles but has never really replicated that success globally and Alyssa Mendoza likely to meet in a quarter final although they both have somewhat challenging oppening fights against Minerva Montiel and Marie Al Ahmadieh beforehand. I'm backing Lozada to win this fight because Mendoza's form internationally this year was a bit hit or miss but she is still young and this was her first year boxing regularly outside of the US. On the other side of this draw we have a rematch of the semi final of this years panam championships between Omailyn Alcala and Leilany Reyes . Legnis Cala Masso likely awaits in the quarter final stage. This is the first female Cuban as they begin their quest to replicate their men's dominance on the women's side of things. Don't expect that to happen anytime soon. Jucielen Romeu is a Tokyo Olympian and reigning south american champion and should get the remaining qualifying spot here. She does have a somewhat interesting prospective quarter final agaisnt Daisy Bamberger who is American but is here representing Peru. A prospective final between Romeu and Lozada would certainly be interesting as they have fought eachother twice and each have one win. Neither of them are exactly medal contenders for Paris though. W60kg (top 4 to qualify) Gold- Beatriz Ferreira , Silver- Angie Valdes , Bronze- Jajaira Gonzalez , Maria Palacios . Other Olympic calibre boxers- Camila Pineiro (this is a complete guess but someone else will qualify here and I don't think it will be Falcon) (First of all does anyone know why the US haven't selected 2022 world champion Rashida Ellis here. I'm assuming it must be injury related but I can't find anything on it) (Also Chile have 1 boxer that had a legitimate chance of qualifying in Valentina Bustamante and she isn't here either.) Even without Rashida Ellis this is one of the strongest womens weightclasses here. The top of the draw should see world silver medallist Angie Valdes cruise to the final. Her preliminary fights are against Tianna Guy and Krisandy Rios who with a different draw could have podiumed here. (I dont know she could be a legitamately good boxer but over the last 4 years she has 2 losses against Beatriz Ferreira, 2 against Angie Valdes and 3 against Rashida Ellis with only 2 or 3 wins total in there to break them up.) The second bracket here is quite weak with Tokyo Olympian and 2023 panam champ (against nobody relevant) Maria Palacios facing the winner of Carribean silver medallist Jessica Munoz and Victoria Saputo . Assuming Rashida Ellis' absence is injury related it will very likely cost her a spot at the Olympics and may well cost the USA a chance at a medal. Jajaira Gonzalez is a decent boxer and did beat Angie Valdes last year. The only significant obstacle standing in her way is Camila Pineiro who is a South American silver medallist. Beatriz Ferreira should win this tournament with minimal trouble with the absence of Rashida Ellis. Her opening fight is agaisnt Tokyo Olympian Esmeralda Falcon . W66kg Gold- Morelle McCane , Silver- Barbara Dos Santos , Bronze- Charlie Cavanagh , Stephanie Pineiro . Other Olympic calibre boxers-Lucia Noelia Perez , Maria Moronta The top half of this draw should be a battle between 2022 world silver medallist Charlie Cavanagh and Morelle McCane for a final spot and the Olympic quota. Charlie Cavanagh does have to come through a tricky quarter final against the inconsistent Lucia Noelia Perez first though. McCane beat Cavanagh on a split decision at the GeeBee tournament earlier this year. Stephanie Pineiro should medal although she does have to come through 2022 world youth medallist Yuliannys Alvarez and Camila Bravo . The bottom of the draw sees Tokyo Olympian Maria Moronta almost cerrtainly face South American champion Barbara dos Santos who beat her last year in a quarter final setting up an interesting semi final with Stephanie Pineiro. There are 6 boxers with a realistic shot at the final here and as a result I doubt the actual results will look remotely like what I have predicted. W75kg Gold- Tammara Thibeault , Silver- Atheyna Bylon , Bronze- Naomi Graham , Viviane Peireira . Other Olympic calibre boxers- Citlalli Ortiz This was always going to be somewhat luck of the draw for Naomi Graham and Atheyna Bylon and unfortunately for Graham she has ended up on the same side of the draw as Tammara Thibeault while Bylon gets the easier side of the draw. Graham has a relatively tough quarter final against Citlalli Ortiz as well. Thibeault herself should be completely untroubled in her first two fights before the semis. Graham and Thibeault have fought many many times, as far as I can tell Graham has never won. Atheyna Bylon and Viviane Peireira should both comfortably win their first two fights before facing eachother in the semis. Bylon won when these two matched up last year. Edited October 20, 2023 by Ogreman Topicmaster1010, Josh, rafalgorka and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogreman 205 Posted October 19, 2023 #3 Share Posted October 19, 2023 (edited) I'm going to have to split the men up between the weights that are being fought today and the ones that don't start yet because otherwise I won't be finished in time. Part 2 and projected medal table on next page. M57KG Gold- Luiz Oliveira , Silver- Yilmar Gonzalez , Bronze- Jahmal Harvey , Yoel Finol . Other Olympic calibre boxers- Saidel Horta . This is one of the more interesting weightclasses. 2021 world champion Jahmal Harvey keeps his spot in the US team despite some mixed form recently and losing to Julius Ballo earlier this year. His path to the semis likely goes through Keevin Allicock who made it to Tokyo with a tri-partite quota. Luiz Oliveira likely awaits in the semi finals in what could be one of the fights of the tournament. Oliveira does have to come through likely Lucas Fernandez Garcia first who had a pretty impressive silver medal at panam championships earlier this year. Oliveira and Harvey have matched up 4 times in recent years and both have won twice although Oliveira as won the last 2. World silver medallist Saidel Horta while he did avoid Oliveira and Harvey didn't exactly get an easy draw. His first fight is against Miguel Vega before a likely matchup with Yilmar Gonzalez in the quarter finals who beat him on his way to winning the Central American championships earlier this year. Not picking Horta may come back to haunt me but lets back the recent form. The final bracket sees Yoel Finol have to come through against Jose de lo Santos and Jean Caicedo . Finol has both beaten and lost to Gonzalez so this sem-final could go either way. M63.5kg Gold- Lazaro Alvarez , Silver- Alexy de la Cruz , Bronze- Yuri Dos Reis , Jose Viafara . Other Olympic calibre boxers- Emilio Garcia , Jesus Cova . So with Olympic champion Andy Cruz having turned pro, the door is open in this division in a way it isn't been for a few year, Three time Olympic medallist Lazaro Alvarez can be pretty pleased with his draw here coming up against Canada's best male Olympic hopeful Wyatt Sanford before a quarter final against Luciano Amayo or Leodan Pezo . The other medal on this side of the draw should be Yuri dos Reis but he does have to come through a couple of fights against boxers I believe are based in the US in Tyshawn Jones and probably Samuel Contreras although it could be Alston Ryan . Emilio Garcia got a difficult draw, first meeting 2023 panam champ Jesus Cova which if he can win he would then face 2022 60kg panam champ and current Central American champion Alexy de la Cruz. At the bottom of the draw South American champion Jose Viafara has a comfortable path to the semifinals where it might depend on who he comes up against. He has beaten Emilio Garcia in the past albeit in a close fight but has also lost to Alexy de la Cruz. M92+kg Gold- Abner Texeira , Silver- Fernando Arzola , Bronze- Christian Salcedo , Joshua Edwards . Other Olympic calibre boxers- Nigel Paul . The top of this bracket should be decided in the last 16 fight between Christian Salcedo and Nigel Paul. Salcedo has won this matchup twice in the past. Abner Texeira should comfortably make the final with fights against Javier Cruz and the winner of the above fight. Fernando Arzola is the world silver medallist but is far from a gaurantee to qualify here. He should cruise to the semis though with only 2023 panam champ Jerome Feujio offering some sort of obstacle. Joshua Edwards will fight the winner the winner of South American silver medallist Gerlon Congo and 2022 panam championships silver medallist Miguel Veliz . Edited October 19, 2023 by Ogreman mrv86, Josh and Monzanator 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian1010 7,470 Posted October 19, 2023 #4 Share Posted October 19, 2023 3 bouts; 3 RSC hoversaBR and Josh 2 “Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian1010 7,470 Posted October 19, 2023 #5 Share Posted October 19, 2023 Oh, thank goodness. I was worried we were going start full length bouts after v. 5 bouts; 4 RSC “Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian1010 7,470 Posted October 19, 2023 #6 Share Posted October 19, 2023 And a withdraw in the final bout of the session. Not the most compelling session Josh 1 “Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrv86 2,920 Posted October 19, 2023 #7 Share Posted October 19, 2023 59 minutes ago, Olympian1010 said: And a withdraw in the final bout of the session. Not the most compelling session Isn’t this the same guy from who was awarded a free bronze at the CAC Games in June? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian1010 7,470 Posted October 19, 2023 #8 Share Posted October 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, mrv86 said: Isn’t this the same guy from who was awarded a free bronze at the CAC Games in June? Yep “Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian1010 7,470 Posted October 19, 2023 #9 Share Posted October 19, 2023 loses their first match by RSC in Round 1 “Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatiReimundo 86 Posted October 19, 2023 #10 Share Posted October 19, 2023 Rio 2016 silver medallist Yoel Finol loses in his first combat against Jose de lo Santos Josh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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